That Karlie.......

[DianaB]

Karlie......I so wish that all of you could meet her and see what we go through with her!! It's constant trouble!!!

Yesterday she came out to the greenhouse where I was working and told me that she wanted to tell me about what happened at school. She told me over and over that it was an accident. When I asked her what she told me that she "accidentally" used the word FLUSH instead of the word HAIR GEL when she was talking to a little boy. I asked how did she mix up those two words? She said that she couldn't remember the word hair gel and instead used the word flush. She couldn't seem to remember exactly what she had said but kept telling me that it was an accident. She told me that Dae Lynn already knew about it but since I couldn't figure it out I told her that I'd have to ask her Mama about what had happened.

I went in the house later and found out that Karlie had had a really bad day at school......in trouble about 5 times in the first 10 minutes she was there!! Ok.....about the flush and hair gel thing.......I guess that a little boy came to school with his hair gelled and it didn't exactly look the best. Well.......Karlie told him that it looked like he had flushed his head in a toilet!!!! (Ok, Janet, you can quit laughing now!!!) Does THAT sound like it was an accident???? I guess that Karlie had gotten in trouble BEFORE she came out to the greenhouse and Dae Lynn had told her that she and I would figure out what punishment that Karlie would have so she came out to manipulate me into thinking she was actually innocent!!! Well.....it back fired and she ended up in huge trouble with her Mom!!! I'm really worried about this little girl!!! We deal with this kind of stuff ALL THE TIME!!

[judy]

She's a smart one all right! I'm sorry, but that is adorable!

Good luck with this little bit of sass! She has to know not to hurt people's feelings like that. I still think it might be that she misses Damon. Or, she is just very very feisty. Or, both.

[Janet]

OMG!!!! I just peed my pants!!!!!!! Karlie is the cutest little thing...honestly and just looking in those eyes of hers....makes you wonder what she's thinking.....and it's probably something rotten...lol. God love her Diana. I know yours and Dae Lynn's patience is about to the end, but I can't help but laugh. Now if you'll excuse me....I have to go change my pants.

[JJJ]

:yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao::yelrotflmao:

[DianaB]

I know that to read it it's funny but there are a lot of kids at school that don't want anything to do with her because she's mean. Dae Lynn sees a lot of her behavior at school and knows what's going on.

She thought that she was being so smart in telling me that stuff but it really back fired on her. She lied to me the other day and I told her over and over that not only is she smart but that I am too and I pointed how how I didn't believe her. I sure hope that this stage of her life stops soon because I never had someone in my family who lied to me like she does. UGH.........

[gja1000]

I'm thinking it might be good to check with someone (perhaps a counselor) who deals with children exhibiting this behavior. I'm sure some of it is related to the disruption of her family, but I'm also thinking that you all need to get a handle on it NOW, rather than later, and a professional might be able to give you some good advice in handling the behavior. Just a thought. I have not experienced this type of behavior, so I have no words of wisdom.

[JJJ]

I honestly think that was a kid remark. Everyone judges no matter what age you are. That is something we can't prevent. What we can prevent is hurting others.

I think Gayle said the right thing as always :thumbup:

Don't get too mad Diana, even our Presidents lie. No one is perfect.

[Janet]

Diana.....I so totally agree with Gayle, maybe it is time to get her some professional help. Someone who specializes in children. Now is the time, I really wouldn't wait too long. She's can be such a sweetheart too, but she needs to be taught how to control the bad behaviour.

[DianaB]

Believe me I've tried. We have a wonderful man at the school that is a couselor and I've tried and tried to get Dae Lynn to take her to him. She's even talked to him about talking to Karlie. I mentioned it again when all of this happened but she ignores me. I agree that it needs to be taken care of now instead of later. It could be because of all that is going on with her family or something else but whatever he could help her with it. I'm so fustrated at Dae Lynn for not taking her to him. There's only so much that I can do.......

[Janet]

Not sure how it is at the schools there, but here....I would go independent. Seems like schools are always wanting to label the kids. I didn't want that for Ricky so I took him to a specialist and had him tested and evaluated. That way the school has no control whatsoever. They can put them in special classes and I thought that would be detrimental to Ricky. You could even speak with her pediatrician and ask for his advice and/or referrals.

[JJJ]

Diana, another thing to remember is that sometimes the mother thinks it's their fault and are ashamed to show a professional their kids. Thinking their the ones to blame.

[Tiramisu]

Slap me, but I think it was a normal kid thing ... not sorry! And, I'll shut my mouth NOW!

[gja1000]

Slap me, but I think it was a normal kid thing ... not sorry! And, I'll shut my mouth NOW!

You are right Sandy, it could be a totally normal kid thing, but then again, there seems to be a pattern.

[DianaB]

I know that it seems that way but you're not with her on a day-to-day basis. In trouble a lot and saying things to hurt people.......It's just not a good pattern.

The school counselor is a Christian man and I know that he'd do a good job of talking to her. I mentioned it to Dae Lynn again last night and she said that she's talked to him and he's going to talk to Karlie. Whew!!! I'm so glad.

As far as Karlie being labeled I think that she's already on her way to doing that herself so I see getting some help, even if it is from the school, a good thing. We can always go independent if things don't work out.

According to Damon, after Karlie was born her real mother didn't have anything to do with her. It makes me wonder about the bonding issue. Damon said that she was in her crib when he went to work and was there when he got home......and somehow Damon ended up with her after the divorce. Plus, she's not seen her for probably two years or so nor does she call or have any contact. It's never talked about her having another mother and we're not sure if she even remembers her but last summer she did talk to me about having another mother.......and a brother, which she does have. The brother was taken away from the mother and the grandparents adopted him.

[gja1000]

Diana, I didn't realize all this history. I think definitely, she needs counseling now, rather than later. She doesn't know it now, but she is very very lucky to have Dae Lynn, you and Glen.

[Blueyes]

Like Gayle said, Karlie is a very blessed little girl to end up in your family. I know you all do the best you can for her:)

[DianaB]

Slap me, but I think it was a normal kid thing ... not sorry! And, I'll shut my mouth NOW!

I've laughed over this comment all weekend long, Sandy!! No hurt feelings over what you said!!

It does sound like a "normal" kid!!! :sidesplit:

I feel so sorry for Karlie because she's in trouble A LOT. Personally, I think that Dae Lynn needs to ease up on her. I try to remind her that she IS a five year old......almost 6! I think that Dae Lynn needs to spend some time with other families that have children the same age and see what they are dealing with!! We went out to eat a couple of weeks ago with a family and realized that Karlie and Dean are just regular kids!! I think that applies.....except for the lying and manipulation that Karlie does.

[judy]

It is so hard to watch our adult children and keep our mouths shut! It is great that Dae Lynn is getting Karlie to talk with the school counselor.

As far as Dae Lynn being too hard on her, it must be so difficult to raise a child who did not come to her as an infant, and who started out deprived of nurturing. Karlie is a lucky little girl she has all of you. I'm sure she knows Dae Lynn loves her, and that is more important than anything.

[DianaB]

We all love Karlie!! She can be the sweetest .........most fustrating little girl!!! LOL.....Isn't that a contridiction? But, sooo Karlie!!!!

[judy]

I just teared up, Diana. Karlie started out in such a bad situation with her mother, and then she ended up with your family. She is blessed!

[DianaB]

Thank you, Judy. One day I hope that Karlie knows how special she really is to our family and what we've done for her.

[Janet]

She will Diana....it most likely will take lots of time, maybe even as late as her becoming an adult and when she thinks back...... her heart will fill with warmth of all the love that was given to her.