Barack Hussein Obama

[Janet]

I just rec'd this in an email. From what I saw of some of his interviews, I liked him, but now I'm worried. I don't know if any of this is 100% true, but I would like to find out. It's kind of scary if he did make President. It makes me so sad AND angry that you just don't know who to trust anymore.



Translated to Osama bin Laden Hussein..lol.. Can you actually believe our country is this stupid to even contemplate someone like this for president of the United States of America..Just his name is enough...

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii .


When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia . When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.


Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, ?He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.?


Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama?s mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Osama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.


Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.


Let us all remain alert concerning Obama?s expected presidential candidacy

[Marilyn]

I certainly hope that this is not all true. The name translation thing does not seem possible. How would he have been named so long ago a name that combines Hussein and Bin Laden? Coincidence is too great to be true.

He does come from a complex background. I'm sure more will come out during his candidacy. The media would have a frenzie over this if it is true.

[Janet]

I certainly hope that this is not all true. The name translation thing does not seem possible. How would he have been named so long ago a name that combines Hussein and Bin Laden? Coincidence is too great to be true.

He does come from a complex background. I'm sure more will come out during his candidacy. The media would have a frenzie over this if it is true.


I think it was referencing him to Bin Laden....hence the lol in the same line.

I posted this on YT too and I'm afraid I might have started something which I didn't mean to do. All I wanted (same here) is more informtion on this man. In the few interviews (one with his wife) that I saw, I kind of liked him. The elections are coming up fast and I like to be as well informed as the average citizen can be when casting my vote. IF the email I rec'd is true...it just kind of scared me a bit. I don't want to and don't want my fellow citizens to fall under a spell.

[Janet]

Accidentally posted twice....fingers are moving faster than my brain....LOL

[RLC12345678]

I found this on www.snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

[Janet]

Thank you Rebecca!!! I knew someone from here would give me something to read so I can make an intelligent decision for myself. My mistake was posting it elsewhere.

I don't think I should have pasted the email I rec'd, I should have just asked a question about him or asked for a link for more information.

I really wouldn't mind if this thread was just dropped. I regret so much for starting it....I should have just started searching.

[RLC12345678]

Don't worry, Janet! It was something you received in an email! We ALL pass on email forwards. All of us here know that you didn't mean anything by it. :)

[Emmsmom]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1682433/bio

This is about Obama. Kindda intresting.

[cindy0721]

I personally would vote for him before Hillary Clinton... I read his book and have followed him around alot.. And even though I am a republican inside and out I agree with alot of this man's way of thinking and think that he would run a clean race and actually help our country. He is of the democratic party but if you ever listen to him talk or read his book.. he is a bit of everything... although he is a demo he thinks like a republican in some aspects... if and when he officially confirms he actions to run, he has my vote! P.S I voted for Bush 2x...lol

[cindy0721]

(from DNC keynote speech) "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America. There's the United States of America. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states. We coach Little League in the blue states, and have gay friends in the red states. There are patriots who opposed the war, and patriots who supported it. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the Stars and Stripes, all of us defending the United States of America."

how can you not back this man?

[Janet]

I know!!! When I saw the different interviews and now reading the link you posted....I like him. Then this morning I got that email and just wasn't sure what to think. Right at this moment, I like him more than I fear him.

[cindy0721]

I know!!! When I saw the different interviews and now reading the link you posted....I like him. Then this morning I got that email and just wasn't sure what to think. Right at this moment, I like him more than I fear him.

lol.... I really like him, hubby and I are both Republicans but I would vote for him before Hillary ... really.... weird huh, since I am a woman...

[Emmsmom]

Neither of them will get my vote! If I had to choose I just wouldn't vote! I hope we have an awesome Republican running!

[Marilyn]

Janet, don't feel bad starting this thread here. I haven't checked YT to see what happened there. I think the active posters here, while we may not always agree, will at least respect each other's opinions.

I for one am an independent. Before Bush invaded Iraq, I considered myself a Republican although I did not always vote for the Republican candidate. Now, I will always endeavor to be informed and vote for the candidate that I feel will do the best in the position.

Any debate that gets us questioning and learning and seeking the facts prior to an election is a good debate.

Hillary will not get my vote. I just don't agree with her politics, and don't trust her.

Obama has promise, though lacks experience, which honestly may not be a bad thing. I just hope one of the parties comes up with a good honest sincere candidate who does not have a hidden personal agenda and has some common sense.

[Lissa]

Thanks for posting the Snoops link Rebecca!! I couldn't have explained it better than they did.

I love Obama, I personally think he would make a great President, he's what the country needs.

If you wanna read any of his stuff he actually has two books, The Audacity of Hope and Dreams from My Father. The Audacity of Hope actually came out not to long ago and what I've read of it so far is really good.

I like Obama, and if he makes it through the primaries I'm definitely voting for him!!

[Marilyn]

CNN heard about your thread!! Just kidding, but check out this article.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html

Looks like they are blaming Hillary. Does look like we are in for a nasty couple of years. I really am not looking forward to it!!!

We need to keep our focus on here of being friends and not get too carried away over this. I'm talking to myself here as much as anyone else. I can get pretty passionate about some of the issues. I will work very hard to not go ballistic on here. If things do get crazy, we need to promise each other we will keep it in the Vent forum. ;)

[RLC12345678]

We need to keep our focus on here of being friends and not get too carried away over this. I'm talking to myself here as much as anyone else. I can get pretty passionate about some of the issues. I will work very hard to not go ballistic on here. If things do get crazy, we need to promise each other we will keep it in the Vent forum. ;)

I'll agree to that! :D

[Janet]

CNN heard about your thread!! Just kidding, but check out this article.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html

Looks like they are blaming Hillary. Does look like we are in for a nasty couple of years. I really am not looking forward to it!!!

We need to keep our focus on here of being friends and not get too carried away over this. I'm talking to myself here as much as anyone else. I can get pretty passionate about some of the issues. I will work very hard to not go ballistic on here. If things do get crazy, we need to promise each other we will keep it in the Vent forum. ;)



LOLOL Marilyn you scared me to death!!! I'm with you as to not looking forward to what could be a nasty campaign. I know MY focus is to not post anymore threads that could possibly become controversial AND I usually keep political views personal. Like I said earlier I will always search first before I ask or paste something like that again. LOLOL, matter of fact...I put a yellow sticky on my monitor that says....."Search first, may be controversial." :D I'm not taking any more chances!!! My feellings get hurt too easily.

[Emmsmom]

Well here is my brutal honest opinion.

1. We do NOT need a woman president. There are certain parts of this world who don't respect women and just do not take us seriously. Plus I can not STAND her. LOL

2. I do not think that we need a president that is in ANY way connected to the Muslim religion. There have been so many lives taken by Muslims during this war. I think that having a president who will represent Muslims(even if it is only to them) will be a HUGE slap in the face! I have to wonder how the troops will feel about this.

My opinion may not be popular among anyone here( and thats ok ! LOL ;) ) but you can bet there are many others out there that probably feel the same.

[Lissa]

First off, I'm not trying to start anything but I'm stubborn, opinionated, and a PoliSci major.

2. I do not think that we need a president that is in ANY way connected to the Muslim religion. There have been so many lives taken by Muslims during this war. I think that having a president who will represent Muslims(even if it is only to them) will be a HUGE slap in the face! I have to wonder how the troops will feel about this.

1. Barrack Obama IS NOT a practicing Muslim, he attended a Muslim school when he was a child, but that wasn't his choice, it was his mother's.

2. Saying he shouldn't be elected simply because there are Muslim connections in his background goes against the single most important founding principle of the United States, the Freedom of Religion.

3. Lives have been taken by Muslims in this war THAT WE STARTED, does anyone know how many Muslim lives have been taken? If they apply the same thought process then they shouldn't adopt the kind of government we're trying to make them adopt simply because we have taken so many of their lives. I think there's a reason we haven't heard any of those stats, I don't think the average American could handle it. Yes we've lost over 3,000 people, I blame Bush, not the Muslims for that, but as I said, how many have they lost? We don't know, but my bets are all in that it's significantly more than we've lost. There are radicals and extremists, and I'm not saying that Saddam should have been left to his own devices, I think we should have gotten him in the Gulf War, but we can't blame the Iraqi people for defending their homes, if a country came here and tried to take over and completely change our system of government would we roll over and take it? Goodness no. We'd fight, and so are they.

4. If you look at Obama, and what he stands for, discrediting him based on religious ties is a slap in the face to all the people who have died fighting for religious freedom, which I guarantee is FAR FAR FAR more than the number of soldiers we have lost in a war that, once again, we started.

My opinion may not be popular among anyone here( and thats ok ! LOL ) but you can bet there are many others out there that probably feel the same.

No offense to you, though you'll probably take it that way, but I certainly hope that there are not many others out there that feel the same. But then again, this is America, since when has America actually stood behind the principles we supposedly stand for?

[Lissa]

Also, I just wanna say, I don't think a woman would do a bad job at being President, I'm willing to support anyone that stands for what's right no matter what their gender or religion may be. But I hope beyond all hope that Hillary WILL NOT be the Democratic candidate in the 2008 election. That woman would do so much harm in that position.

Also, since someone said that we're friends here so we should steer clear of the controversy, I think it was my mum actually that said that, but I feel whole heartedly that the women on here are my friends and my friends that I see everyday in person and I do talk about, and debate about, this kind of stuff in real life, so I don't see why I shouldn't treat you gals the same ;) We just gonna stay civil :D

[Emmsmom]

Nope. No offense taken. LOL I stand by opinion. I will say that I am a hard core Republican! LOL If a women who was a Repub ran for president she STILL would not get my vote. Sadly I still wouldn't vote for a Repub who was connected to the Muslim faith.

One of the MAIN reasons that I vote Repub is because of abortions. Someone correct me if I am wrong.... The Dems think that partial birth abortions are ok. I don't and think it is just plain awful.

So needless to say I could careless who is running on the Dems side. LOL They still wouldn't get my vote. I told you I am very old school.

[cindy0721]

Well I am republican BUT because I am so fond of Barack Obama I would vote for him even though he is a democrat... I believe he can change this world and bring together the red and the blue like in the old days....

[Marilyn]

Nope. No offense taken. LOL I stand by opinion. I will say that I am a hard core Republican! LOL If a women who was a Repub ran for president she STILL would not get my vote. Sadly I still wouldn't vote for a Repub who was connected to the Muslim faith.

One of the MAIN reasons that I vote Repub is because of abortions. Someone correct me if I am wrong.... The Dems think that partial birth abortions are ok. I don't and think it is just plain awful.

So needless to say I could careless who is running on the Dems side. LOL They still wouldn't get my vote. I told you I am very old school.

FYI, there are many Democrats who oppose partial birth abortions as well. Many of our newly elected legislators in Washington are conservative Democrats who are opposed to abortion. Do not catagorize all Democrats as being in favor of abortion just because the Clintons and a few vocal extremely liberal ones are. BTW, just because a person is pro-choice does not mean that they support or even approve of abortion. All some pro-choice people are saying is that the government should not legislate every aspect of our lives. God is pro-choice or He would have made abortion and other sinful acts impossible. He gives is the freedom to choose to do right or choose to do wrong. The problem is that people rely on the laws of this nation to determine what is right or wrong rather than using God's Word as their guide.

I'd be careful making such an important decision as who should be President based on just one issue. There is so much more at stake.

From one concerned Independent.

[Emmsmom]

God is pro-choice or He would have made abortion and other sinful acts impossible. He gives is the freedom to choose to do right or choose to do wrong. The problem is that people rely on the laws of this nation to determine what is right or wrong rather than using God's Word as their guide.



I have to disagree

I think that the Gov at times NEEDS laws like this. Can you imagine how things would be if we were allowed to do any and everything we wanted. I have always voted REPUB. I have no intentions of changing my mind now.Of course there are many other reason that I vote as a REPUB. Some of them would make for a very heated debate so I won't go into detail.:D

[Lissa]

Well, as long as you do have other issues in mind when you vote GOP and aren't a single issue voter. Single issue voters can be dangerous as well as party voters...

Then again I'm Independant so I don't have to worry about party politics, I just vote straight issues. It's not about the party to me, it's the person.