View Full Version : What do you think of Rudy?
DianaB
03-14-2007, 04:41 PM
I received some campaign information from Rudy Giuliani, who is running for president. What are your opinions about him and his running for president?
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is the strongest Republican in the race to be president, according to polls. But most insiders dismiss these numbers, pointing out that Giuliani's views on abortion, gays and guns do not fit in with a conservative electorate.
http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur32043.cfm
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070313/REPOSITORY/703130327/1013/NEWS03
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5121733
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/20187
http://www.joinrudy2008.com/
Marilyn
03-14-2007, 07:07 PM
He will not be getting my vote, if he gets that far, which I seriously doubt. I'm an independent, so I try to look beyond party affiliation. This said, it appears that his only tie to the Republican party are his ties to big business.
Janet
03-15-2007, 05:03 AM
I thought he handled the World Trade Center attack with great form. I don't know much else about him. We are registered as Republicans, but I vote for the best person, not by party. It never enters my mind to vote by party. Still have a while to gather info on the candidates, so I'll just wait and see.
rivermom
03-15-2007, 10:50 AM
I haven't watched enough of him on T.V. or listened to him to make a fair judgement. I just posted on here to raise my post count. LOL, just kidding!!!
Seriously though, as Janet says, there's plenty of time left to hear what all these folks have to say then try to make a good decision in hopes for the best outcome.
Rudy Guiliani was mayor for two terms in NYC. I lived there in the begining of his two terms. He was an excellent mayor and brought down the crime drastically and cleaned up Times square, which was full of porno shops etc. He lowered taxes , etc. I was out of NYC at the time of the WT attacks but he led the city in that terrible time. Rudy Guiliani is a strong leader and I have nothing but good things to say about him. He was a proscuetor for the DA for many years. At the time he took over the mayoral position NYC was at its lowest, he was voted in for the two terms. So that proved that people did approve of him. People will always have negetive things to say, but he is very strong over the Republican party here in the Northeast.He proved himself in NYC, thats all I can say.
I have heard that after 911 people were very impressed with the way Rudy held things together.
I have also heard that a lot of the police and EMS workers felt they got a really raw deal due to his leadership in matters pertaining to the after affects of 911.
I think like with anyone, you're going to find those who love him and those who really do not. I plan to vote the issues. For me, Rudy is out based on his stand on a few things. I'm not a republican, but the only thing I see about him that really speaks of being republican is his tie to big business and money. He comes across as more of a democrat in many of his opinions.
DianaB
03-16-2007, 09:43 AM
I was courious what others thought because I was impressed with how he handled 9/11 but didn't know much else about him. I guess we'll be hearing a lot more about him and all the other candidates later on. Thanks for all of your responses!
Chandra Amaya
03-16-2007, 02:53 PM
I don't know much about him. I just know he did some great things for NY & I've heard he has ties with the mob
AngieDoogles
03-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Although I don't necessarily affiliate with any party, I do usually vote Democratic simply because I prefer their policies on domestic programs and their attention to the social well-being of society.
That being said, Rudy will most likely NOT be getting my vote. At this point (though it's quite early), I'm leaning towards Barack Obama. He seems awesome!
I don't know much about him. I just know he did some great things for NY & I've heard he has ties with the mob
lol Chandra not true at all.. Matter of fact he was a prosecutor and put the mobsters behind bars.. Just because he is italian does not mean he is mob related.
Chandra Amaya
03-17-2007, 05:35 PM
lol Chandra not true at all.. Matter of fact he was a prosecutor and put the mobsters behind bars.. Just because he is italian does not mean he is mob related.
LOL ...figures.. I never thought of actually checking into to him. It was just one of those things I remembered hearing, but thanks for the facts :)
Marilyn
03-20-2007, 05:23 PM
Some video and pics of our next President??? Enjoy!!!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/154212/rudy_giuliani_in_drag/
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03032007/news/nationalnews/rudy_dragged_down_nationalnews_ian_bishop__post_co rrespondent.htm
http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/03/rudy_dresses_like_a_girl/
http://wonkette.com/politics/walnuts/mccain-campaign-steals-rudys-secret-strategery-plans-225544.php
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49595
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb2y1IM17sM
As a New Yorker who lived through the RG administration, I will not be voting for him. He handled 9/11 beautifully - I'll give him that, but he's not a nice human being, doesn't care about the middle class, had no respect for teachers, firemen and cops, and cheated on his wife in public, in front of his children. I do think he has mob ties, by the way, but that's in the past. He did many other things in NYC that were really concerned with benefitting big business, and not New Yorkers. I have no idea who I will vote for though. I'm a Democrat and I think I'll be left with Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I have my reservations about her!
Judy:confused:
Passionfruition
04-05-2007, 09:12 AM
He will not be getting my vote, if he gets that far, which I seriously doubt. I'm an independent, so I try to look beyond party affiliation. This said, it appears that his only tie to the Republican party are his ties to big business.I totally agree with you, Marilyn!!!! :thumbup: Well put.
AngieDoogles
04-05-2007, 09:24 AM
As a New Yorker who lived through the RG administration, I will not be voting for him. He handled 9/11 beautifully - I'll give him that, but he's not a nice human being, doesn't care about the middle class, had no respect for teachers, firemen and cops, and cheated on his wife in public, in front of his children. I do think he has mob ties, by the way, but that's in the past. He did many other things in NYC that were really concerned with benefitting big business, and not New Yorkers. I have no idea who I will vote for though. I'm a Democrat and I think I'll be left with Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I have my reservations about her!
Judy:confused:
Wow, thanks for the insight Judy! Hillary is leading the democratic candidates so far, but not by much. 27% favor Hillary, 21% McCain, and 20% Obama. Those figures are a few days old, but it probably hasn't changed much and I don't remember where I saw it so I can't give proper citation. Sorry.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that Hillary is not the only democratic choice and these figures will definitely go up and down over the next year.
Janet
04-05-2007, 10:16 AM
My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.
AngieDoogles
04-05-2007, 10:19 AM
My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.
I agree completely Janet! There's so much more to a candidate than his/her party...but typically an affiliation can tell you where they stand on most issues. It's important to look at each individual though, as I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread. I was just trying to show that there are other democratic candidates besides Hillary. ;) I wasn't trying to start a debate either.
I'm glad you feel this way Janet. I think it's the best attitude to have.
My only wish is that people would not vote along political lines. Maybe that's wrong and I don't want to debate it with anyone. I'm registered as a Republican, but I ALWAYS vote for who I think is the best choice for our country.
I agree with you Janet, I am registered Democrat but I have been voting Republican over the years. I am so so on whom to vote for But I can assure you that Hillary will Never get my vote.. Her so called darling husband had a chance to stop the terriorsts after the first attack on the WTC but he did nothing. My husband was lucky he survived both attacks.
Janet - I totally agree with you, but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary. (Sorry Angie - I know you're hoping for Barak)
I might be wrong, it has certainly happened before, in which case, like you, I will not vote for party affiliation.
Judy
AngieDoogles
04-06-2007, 08:03 AM
Janet - I totally agree with you, but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary. (Sorry Angie - I know you're hoping for Barak)
I might be wrong, it has certainly happened before, in which case, like you, I will not vote for party affiliation.
Judy
Judy, I'm crushed!! Lol, just kidding. If nothing comes of Obama this time around, at least his name is out there now and he could definitely be a possibility in 2012. (Wow, that seems so far away...) You can never tell in politics. Things change so quickly!
He does have charisma, but he's so unknown as YET. He's also quite good looking!
(Just a thought I have whenever I see him).
Judy
Passionfruition
04-12-2007, 01:35 PM
Did you guys see this news about Giuliani not knowing the price milk and bread? I think it's scary that a candidate could be so out of touch with "normal American life" not to even know these prices.
Not that I'm against Rudy as a candidate.....I haven't even begun to make any decisions on that stuff yet! I think it's too early to tell. But this does worry me!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070410/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani_groceries_1
Giuliani off the mark on grocery costs
By PHILLIP RAWLS, Associated Press Writer Tue Apr 10, 6:15 PM ET
MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately ? at least based on his answers about the cost of milk and bread.
Campaigning in Alabama on Tuesday, the former New York City mayor portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative and an aggressive fighter of terrorism who has a lot in common with the Deep South state.
But when asked about more mundane matters ? like the price of some basic staples ? Giuliani had trouble with a reporter's question.
"A gallon of milk is probably about a $1.50, a loaf of bread about a $1.25, $1.30," he said.
A check of the Web site for D'Agostino supermarket on Manhattan's Upper East Side showed a gallon of milk priced at $4.19 and a loaf of white bread at $2.99 to $3.39. In Montgomery, Ala., a gallon of milk goes for about $3.39 and bread is about $2.
Giuliani was closer to the mark on the price of a gallon of gasoline.
"Gas, I think, is $2.89," he said
His difficulty with grocery items recalled another Republican's supermarket run-in. In 1992, President George H.W. Bush expressed amazement at a high-tech supermarket scanner, prompting critics to argue that he was out of touch with average Americans. The White House cried foul, pointing out that during a grocers' convention Bush had been impressed by a special scanner that could read torn labels.
Giuliani attended $1,000-per-person campaign fundraisers in Mobile and Montgomery before addressing a joint session of the Alabama Legislature that drew an overflow crowd.
Recalling that he worked in the Justice Department in President Reagan's administration, Giuliani said that like Reagan, he will not change course with the political winds.
"I'll set a course and stick with it. I'll be on offense on terrorism. I'll be a fiscal conservative. I'll lower taxes. I'll seek private market solutions to most problems," he told the Legislature.
The former mayor said he talked to radio host Don Imus, who has been suspended for two weeks for derogatory remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team. Giuliani said he considers Imus' apology sincere.
"I would appear on his program again, sure. I take him at his word," Giuliani said.
Asked about the flying of the Confederate flag in some Southern states, Giuliani said, "That's a good thing to be left on a state-by-state basis."
Giuliani said he did not recall seeing a Confederate flag during his day in Alabama ? even though there was a display of four Confederate flags flying beside the Capitol.
The former mayor never mentioned his position on gay rights and abortion that separate him from traditional Republican voters in the state, but he said he would always be straight with voters.
"I will tell you what I believe. If you agree with it, fine. If you don't agree with it, you have a right not to agree with it. If you don't agree, you have a right not to vote for me," he said.
Marilyn
04-12-2007, 05:11 PM
I can't criticize the guy for not knowing the price of milk or bread. I do most of our grocery shopping, and I could not have told you. They are things that we need, so I just go for 1% milk (preferrably organic) and white whole wheat bread and pay whatever it costs. Why bother looking, we have no control over the price. Now, other things where I have more choice, like meats and seafood, I look at the prices!!!
My big thing is where they have historically stood on key issues that are important for our nation. And I so hope you are wrong, Judy ....but I do think our choices will be Rudy and Hillary.
If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!
AngieDoogles
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!
lol, me too! Let's hope it doesn't come to that...
Chandra Amaya
04-13-2007, 06:19 AM
I can't criticize the guy for not knowing the price of milk or bread. I do most of our grocery shopping, and I could not have told you. They are things that we need, so I just go for 1% milk (preferrably organic) and white whole wheat bread and pay whatever it costs. Why bother looking, we have no control over the price. Now, other things where I have more choice, like meats and seafood, I look at the prices!!!
My big thing is where they have historically stood on key issues that are important for our nation. And I so hope you are wrong, Judy
If those are our choices, I'll vote for someone else to make my point, "None of the Above"!!!
I completely agree Marilyn & not to sound sexist but men pay less attention than we do for things we need. I sent my hubby to get medicine when the kids & I were sick. He came back with all Tylenol brand medicines. I asked him how much he paid. He said "I don't know. I know I can trust the name & you guys needed it. Why would I care about the price?"
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