i hate men!!!!!!!!!

[toodles]

I swear..I could just live without men for the rest of my life and be perfectly happy. granted...I don't have a son...so I can seriously say that LOL

we are having our investor (an extremely wealthy guy) and my bookkeeper and her bf over for dinner tonight. hubby called me and said "we are at wal-mart and then we will be home". ok...this was 3 hours before I was expecting company and i still had a lot of cleaning to do. I hadn't touched the guest bathroom, needed to vacuum, wanted to clean my bedroom because i am sure hubby will want to show off our recently re-done bathroom...just a lot to do in a short amount of time. so i busted my butt. got it looking GREAT all the way around. then dh calls and said "gary wanted to go back to his hotel so I dropped him off and will go pick him back up at 5".

are you freaking kidding me??

it's ok...i guess i had nothing better to do with my time than to bust my hump for nothing.

i really don't like men

[Mandy]

Awwww it's awful to feel like this, but think of it this way - the work you did today, wont need doing on monday ;) I know men can push the limit :rolleyes: but this is a man's world lol

[toodles]

oh...let's top of the evening here...

mind you...i worked up a nice sweat trying to get the house in tip top shape before company arrived. it looked DAMN good!!! :)

the only 2 rooms in the house i didn't clean were my daughters room and her play room...i refuse. she can clean it when she gets home....i am NOT doing it. it's a disaster.

well....all was going great. we had a very fun, relaxing, humorous night. just as our investor was leaving...jim decides to show him the cool lights he installed...IN THE PLAY ROOM!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

i started yelling "WHAT ARE YOU DOING???"

everyone froze. i just walked away. everyone left and dh asked "what was that about?"

do you really have to ask??? sheesh....after all the time i spent cleaning and preparing...you had to take them into the MESSIEST room in the house????? I knew I should have locked that door!!! OMG...I thought I would die.
he really didn't see anything wrong with it until we got to talking. then dh just apologized.

OYE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Janet]

Men suck!!! That's for sure....LOL They don't even have a clue. I cleaned the carpet in the family room yesterday and last night hubby fixes him something to eat and walks in the family room with it. I'm like...."what the he** are you doing? You spill any of that after I cleaned the carpet I'll clean your clock buddy." Needless to stay he turned around and went back to the kitchen.

He the one I have most trouble with. Peanut shells in the recliner and then they fall through to the floor underneath. Spilled a glass of milk in the family room before....all over the end table and the carpet and well just too much to list. You'd think he'd learn, but NOOOoooo.

Sorry, here I go again, but men are jokes! I ever get rid of this one, I'll never have another one.

[Mandy]

I can handle a lot, seriously.... my mom always said, men are big babies... one thing i learnt from her, is not ever to spoil them so much, dont run after them, like their nanny.

Some days i wanna tell him * GO BACK TO UR MOTHER*

[AngieDoogles]

Next time you should make HIM clean the house Mandee!! :D

[judy]

He's spoiled! He calls and you go running around cleaning and vacuuming. No, no, no!

Next time, just surface clean and don't worry about it. I know that we all think the cleanliness of our homes is a reflection of who we are, but I never find myself inspecting exactly how spotless anyone else's house is. As long as it's reasonably neat, that's basically all I see. That's all anyone will see about your home too.

I've learned to just straighten up before I have a party. The guests usually make somewhat of a mess, and then I clean that up. It works beautifully, and I'm always complimented on how lovely my home is.

[katepoet]

I get so sick of people who think a messy house reflects that the woman in it is at fault! Everyone in a household is making choices and prioritizing in ways that affect the mess - even when they don't think they are the ones making the mess. And a messy house means life is happening there, being lived, loved, explored. If the kitchen and bathrooms are clean and no one can trip over anything and break a leg - well that should just about do it!

As for showing off the new features - why? With business associates that is awfully invasive of family personal space IMHO. But that's me...

[rivermom]

Men for sure do know how to make our hair stand on end. Sometimes it makes me laugh, other times cry....This is why they invented wine. :rolleyes:

Toodles - I promise, most men just DON'T get it, bottom line. LOL ;)

[Marilyn]

I think they are pretty much all alike in this regard. My hubby has taken people into rooms that to me would have been off limits. When I asked him why, he just did not get it either. Me..."But the bed wasn't make!!" Him...."So, they weren't there to see the bed!" It's sooo frustrating.

Actually, I don't know if they are too oblivious, or we are too sensitive, but we do feel that we are judged as women by how our home looks, whether it is clean and neat. Most of us work outside the home just as many or more hours that our husbands do, so why do we put this pressure on ourselves??? Times have changed and then in some ways they haven't.

Confusing and contradicting society we live in!!!!

[AngieDoogles]

I think they are pretty much all alike in this regard. My hubby has taken people into rooms that to me would have been off limits. When I asked him why, he just did not get it either. Me..."But the bed wasn't make!!" Him...."So, they weren't there to see the bed!" It's sooo frustrating.

Actually, I don't know if they are too oblivious, or we are too sensitive, but we do feel that we are judged as women by how our home looks, whether it is clean and neat. Most of us work outside the home just as many or more hours that our husbands do, so why do we put this pressure on ourselves??? Times have changed and then in some ways they haven't.

Confusing and contradicting society we live in!!!!

We talk about this same issue pretty often in my Child Welfare course. Women, traditionally, were supposed to take care of the children, keep the house clean, make sure the family has meals at the proper times, etc. etc. BUT that was ALL she did. Now, women are pretty much expected to work to help support the family, but they are still supposed to fill all of those traditional roles as well. The father on the other hand, generally still does what he has always done. No wonder women are so stressed!!

[rivermom]

We talk about this same issue pretty often in my Child Welfare course. Women, traditionally, were supposed to take care of the children, keep the house clean, make sure the family has meals at the proper times, etc. etc. BUT that was ALL she did. Now, women are pretty much expected to work to help support the family, but they are still supposed to fill all of those traditional roles as well. The father on the other hand, generally still does what he has always done. No wonder women are so stressed!!



:cheers:

[Mandy]

So very true, Angie!! It's no wonder we turn grey so fast!

[DianaB]

I admire women who work and still can keep a household running. Especially if they have kids involved in all sorts of stuff. My daughter-in-law does a great job of keeping everything going and the house clean but my son is also very good at pitching in when needed.

[Janet]

I admire women who work and still can keep a household running. Especially if they have kids involved in all sorts of stuff. My daughter-in-law does a great job of keeping everything going and the house clean but my son is also very good at pitching in when needed.

Your DIL is very lucky to have your son. I see some husband now that are so helpful around the house, dishes, laundry, etc. I see them working in their yards, planting shrubs, etc. Mine just doesn't do any of that. And when he does, it is not done correctly...I don't mean not done my way, but only half way done or very sloppily...no pride in the job. I have to ask him to do everything. The house would fall down in disrepair if I didn't make sure he fixed it or threatended to pay someone to fix it.

Okay....here I go...I really need to stay away from hubby type topics...LOLOL If anyone wants him....you're more than welcome...I'd rather have another puppy.:)

[katepoet]

Puppies - they make new messes, kiss you when you least expect it, protect the house, and don't wash the dishes except to clean their plates. Hmmm.... who was it we are defining here?

[AngieDoogles]

I admire women who work and still can keep a household running. Especially if they have kids involved in all sorts of stuff. My daughter-in-law does a great job of keeping everything going and the house clean but my son is also very good at pitching in when needed.

That's great that she can do that Diana, but my question is...should she HAVE to? I mean, isn't it fair if she's working for the husband to pitch in in other areas instead of her having to work and still do so much at home? (Not to say anything bad about your daughter-in-law or son, but just thinking about society in general.)

*Edit--oops sorry. I read that last little bit incorrectly at first.*

[AngieDoogles]

Your DIL is very lucky to have your son. I see some husband now that are so helpful around the house, dishes, laundry, etc. I see them working in their yards, planting shrubs, etc. Mine just doesn't do any of that. And when he does, it is not done correctly...I don't mean not done my way, but only half way done or very sloppily...no pride in the job. I have to ask him to do everything. The house would fall down in disrepair if I didn't make sure he fixed it or threatended to pay someone to fix it.

Okay....here I go...I really need to stay away from hubby type topics...LOLOL If anyone wants him....you're more than welcome...I'd rather have another puppy.:)

Janet, don't just get a new puppy...train your hubby instead! ;)

[Janet]

OH Sweet sweet Angie....you silly girl...I've been married 33 years now...he's untrainable and I have no more interest in doing so. I just have to pretend that he didn't do it at all and re-do it, otherwise I'd go nuts and be more unhappy.

[DianaB]

That's great that she can do that Diana, but my question is...should she HAVE to? I mean, isn't it fair if she's working for the husband to pitch in in other areas instead of her having to work and still do so much at home? (Not to say anything bad about your daughter-in-law or son, but just thinking about society in general.)

*Edit--oops sorry. I read that last little bit incorrectly at first.*

I guess that I worded it wrong when I said "when needed". My son and his wife started out with twin girls for their first children and my son has been very helpful all the way with the kids (they now have a son too). My husband's family has a father that has been VERY involved with the kids and you can see it now in all of the kids and grandkids. They are people who are VERY involved in raising their children. My son is also very considerate of his wife and helps her out a lot and even the kids are trained to pitch in and help. Before they could come over for gingerbread the other day they had to do some chores before they could come.

I think that my son is an example of his father and that children learn from their parents. If a husband treats his wife well, helps out, and respects his wife, then his sons will learn from his example on how to treat a wife.

[AngieDoogles]

OH Sweet sweet Angie....you silly girl...I've been married 33 years now...he's untrainable and I have no more interest in doing so. I just have to pretend that he didn't do it at all and re-do it, otherwise I'd go nuts and be more unhappy.

Are they ever really "untrainable"? LoL! Maybe you can still teach him a few things. :)

Diana, very well said. It is all in how they are raised. I can't wait to see Brendon's traits in our children someday.

You are lucky to have such a good hubby and son. You'll have to remember to give your father-in-law a big thank you and hug when you see him. :)

[katepoet]

Getting serious for a moment, I would never want to be "trained" - so demeaning - and so I would never try to train my husband. I assume that, in truth, we all feel that way. The only thing I have found that works is to ask for what I need and if for some reason it doesn't happen, ask why and how we can make it work better. Mutual respect and communication were essential to my commitment to marriage in the first place. Sometimes during tough times, we fall down on the job of communicating well and we have to work harder at it for awhile but that's life.

Sometimes I think we come into marriage with expectations based on what we have known in our families, but our spouses have different expectations based on their life experiences. Sometimes we choose a spouse who is a follower because we want to lead and sometimes a leader who we want to follow. All of this gets in the way of building a long-term marriage that rests on the rock of respect, kindness and fellowship. We have to grow as individuals and as a couple and it takes work. We are constantly re-birthing ourselves and most of us know what giving birth was like - it isn't usually an easy walk in the park! lol

[rivermom]

Usually the nagging works for me. :D **kidding** ;)

[AngieDoogles]

So I was definitely kidding about "training" a spouse. I'm not *THAT* mean. :p It is, however, fun to joke around about men since we're all women here... ;)

[Janet]

So I was definitely kidding about "training" a spouse. I'm not *THAT* mean. :p It is, however, fun to joke around about men since we're all women here... ;)


You've heard the phrase..."can't teach an old dog new tricks."...LOLOL Yes he is pretty much untrainable. He wasn't raised the way I was..to take care of what you have and take pride in it ....pride in a job well done. Around home, he just does it any old way to get it done, so he can do something he likes to do...tinker. Man..here I go again.

[katepoet]

My son and I were talking about stereotypes yesterday so it seemed that clarifying the humor was important!

[AngieDoogles]

You've heard the phrase..."can't teach an old dog new tricks."...LOLOL Yes he is pretty much untrainable. He wasn't raised the way I was..to take care of what you have and take pride in it ....pride in a job well done. Around home, he just does it any old way to get it done, so he can do something he likes to do...tinker. Man..here I go again.

Different people value different things and a lot of that definitely comes from how you were raised. I'm sure there are lots of things you admire about him, even if his work ethic is a bit annoying at times.

[Janet]

Different people value different things and a lot of that definitely comes from how you were raised. I'm sure there are lots of things you admire about him, even if his work ethic is a bit annoying at times.

You're just dying for me to say something good about my hubby aren't you now Angie :) Well okay......I will give him credit for having excellent taste in a wife...:D :D :D

[AngieDoogles]

You're just dying for me to say something good about my hubby aren't you now Angie :) Well okay......I will give him credit for having excellent taste in a wife...:D :D :D

Lol, you know me, I'm forever an optimist... ;)

And yes, he has terrific taste when it comes to choosing a wife! If nothing else, he's got that going for him, right? :) Also, from what you've said, he seems like a really great dad!

[judy]

There you go...you're 100% right Janet. His taste is impeccable.

I don't think you actually "train" a spouse, but I do think that we teach people how to love us and how to treat us. I think that's really what we mean when we say "train our husbands."

One thing for sure, we can't change a person's basic nature. It's a waste of time and energy.

[katepoet]

So right, Judy. And way to go, Janet! What could be better?