The Presidential Election

[judy]

It looks like it's going to be a McCain vs Hillary election. I don't think Obama will make it, although I like him. It would be interesting if he and Hillary paired up as President and Vice President, but they've been slamming each other too much.

I don't see Mitt Romney winning either. He's not as well known as McCain.

The media in NY is really making so much fun of Giuliani! His "win Florida and forget the rest" strategy wasn't even close to sane.

I would say it's going to be a very boring election.

[Janet]

I think it looks like a very scary future too. Maybe we should have run Judy????

[Tink]

Quite seriously I cringe to think of the Clintons representing us again. They were an absolute embarrassment last time. How anyone could vote for her is beyond my understanding.

The woman gives me the creeps.

[cindy0721]

Quite seriously I cringe to think of the Clintons representing us again. They were an absolute embarrassment last time. How anyone could vote for her is beyond my understanding.

The woman gives me the creeps.

I agree.. i would love a woman president but not here... I would NEVER vote for her... I want OBAMA to win .... crossing fingers!!

[Janet]

I never get into political discussions, don't know why I'm posting this. 99.9% of the time, I'm on the other side of the fence from others. Don't want Hillary, but definitely don't want Obama either. I don't take elections lightly..I study, read and watch for as much information as I can get. Thought about crossing lines, but McCain is such a ...well it doesn't help to call names. So....like I said earlier...it's going to be a very scary future.

[DianaB]

Quite seriously I cringe to think of the Clintons representing us again. They were an absolute embarrassment last time. How anyone could vote for her is beyond my understanding.

The woman gives me the creeps.

I agree with you, Tink! I have one ruled out and I don't have any idea on the others.

[katcarasella]

I'm still registered up in Wisconsin, by the time I thought about it it was too late to register here for the primary. This is the first time since I was 21 that I won't be voting in the primary:( I am so bummed out about this. I was gonna write Stephan Colbert from Comedy Central in as my candidate of choice:)

[judy]

I think it looks like a very scary future too. Maybe we should have run Judy????


Yes! I would be a good president - put a quick end to all this nonsense and have a good time doing it!

When I was a teacher, my kids always wanted me to become a principal. We would laugh because they knew if it was a nice warm day, I'd call off classes and have a field trip right to the beach.

Honestly, I don't see that much difference on the issues between Hillary and McCain.

[DianaB]

.........Honestly, I don't see that much difference on the issues between Hillary and McCain.

My problem with Hillary is not with the issues. It was all the things that went on in the White House when her husband was there. You know that if she's president that her husband will be going with her and there'll only be more chaos.

[judy]

Politicians always confused me. Why anyone would want that life is not something I can connect to. You're in the public eye, have a need for power, lie a lot, etc. and I just don't get it.

I'm sure there are many politicians who sincerely want to make this country the best it can be, but we really don't hear about the good things. The media feeds us only the bad.

I would be a good President though. We all know what's right and what's wrong,
it's the gray areas we have trouble with. That's where compromise is needed, and where we don't seem to be able to do that.

[Tiramisu]

I liked Edwards!

[AngieDoogles]

I agree.. i would love a woman president but not here... I would NEVER vote for her... I want OBAMA to win .... crossing fingers!!

My sentiments exactly! :D

[judy]

My sentiments exactly! :D


I think he's a good man and would be a very good President. I think, sadly, that there are still people in this country who won't vote for a Black President. He is doing quite well in the primaries though - much better than expected. You never know!

There's an awful email going around about him being a radical Muslim - kind of trying to tie him to the terrorist factions in the Muslim religion. If you Snope it, of course it's lies. How foolish some people are.

[AngieDoogles]

I think he's a good man and would be a very good President. I think, sadly, that there are still people in this country who won't vote for a Black President. He is doing quite well in the primaries though - much better than expected. You never know!

There's an awful email going around about him being a radical Muslim - kind of trying to tie him to the terrorist factions in the Muslim religion. If you Snope it, of course it's lies. How foolish some people are.

Yup, I noticed that the email was complete lies. Sad... :( They aired a huge story about it on Fox as well, none of which was true. (CNN later ran a story showing all of the lies.)

I guess that's to be expected in politics though.

[Tink]

I have gotten that same email several times. I always copy the page from Snopes onto it and send it back to the people I got it from. WHY don't people check those things out?!?

[AngieDoogles]

I have gotten that same email several times. I always copy the page from Snopes onto it and send it back to the people I got it from. WHY don't people check those things out?!?

I do that when I get fake emails too! LOL! I hate for fake stuff to just keep circulating...

[highlans]

What date is the final election and your new president voted in?. Over here news is on Hilary a lot.

[Marilyn]

The real election is in November once we've narrowed it down to one candidate from each party, and they have selected their vice presidential running mate.

We really don't have any good choices left. I was for Ron Paul, but knew he could not make it. Next choice was Edwards, and he's bit the dust.

Now I'm for Obama. McCain is pro-war in Iraq, and Hillary....well I have several reasons not to want Hillary in the office.

I've heard it speculated that McCain will pick Condolesa Rice for his VP either way, to try to pull the black and female votes.

I'm afraid we are in for trouble either way you go. No one decent wants to run for president. Who would really want to subject themselves to all the media scruttiny and to have to deal with all the frustrations of running this huge mess? There are no simple answers.

[judy]

I have gotten that same email several times. I always copy the page from Snopes onto it and send it back to the people I got it from. WHY don't people check those things out?!?


That's a very good idea Tink!

I heard this morning that if Hillary doesn't win the California primary, she may not win
That's how close they are now!

[highlans]

The real election is in November once we've narrowed it down to one candidate from each party, and they have selected their vice presidential running mate.

We really don't have any good choices left. I was for Ron Paul, but knew he could not make it. Next choice was Edwards, and he's bit the dust.

Now I'm for Obama. McCain is pro-war in Iraq, and Hillary....well I have several reasons not to want Hillary in the office.

I've heard it speculated that McCain will pick Condolesa Rice for his VP either way, to try to pull the black and female votes.

I'm afraid we are in for trouble either way you go. No one decent wants to run for president. Who would really want to subject themselves to all the media scruttiny and to have to deal with all the frustrations of running this huge mess? There are no simple answers.

Wow thats a long way off, our's only lasts a couple of month but I suppose you are a bigger country. Our PM is a bit weedy I did like Tony Blair but all are party leaders at the mo are not up to much.:thumbdwn:

[judy]

Wow thats a long way off, our's only lasts a couple of month but I suppose you are a bigger country. Our PM is a bit weedy I did like Tony Blair but all are party leaders at the mo are not up to much.:thumbdwn:


Your way is so much better. We're really subjected to months of commercials, media hype, every bit of dirt that can be found about every candidate, debates, candidates bashing each other, etc. People argue about "their" candidates and issues, and so on. By the time the election finally comes, most of us already hate all of them, including the new President!

[AngieDoogles]

Your way is so much better. We're really subjected to months of commercials, media hype, every bit of dirt that can be found about every candidate, debates, candidates bashing each other, etc. People argue about "their" candidates and issues, and so on. By the time the election finally comes, most of us already hate all of them, including the new President!

Well said! I get so tired of all the commercials and bashing by the end. The TN senate election was the worst EVER this past time and I was so glad to see it over with, even though the candidate I supported didn't win.

And why can't the candidates win on their own merit rather than the flaws of the others? I hate when it comes down to who has the fewest faults rather than who has the better ideas and plans...

[Marilyn]

Ladies, you should move to Texas if you hate the commercials. They all just figure we're all voting Republican, so why bother. Part of the Rio Grande Valley votes Democrat, as does Houston and Austin, the remainder of the state is pretty much all Republican. Besides, our primary isn't until March 4th, when most of the country has already picked their delegates. Candidates don't spend much money for advertising in our state.

We have to go to national news to find out what's going on.

[judy]

An election joke!

One day a florist goes to a barber for a haircut. After the cut he
asked about his bill and the barber replies, 'I cannot accept money
from you. I'm doing community service this week.' The florist was pleased
and left the shop.

When the barber goes to open his shop the next morning there is a
'thank you' card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his
bill, the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept money from you. I'm
doing community service this week' The cop is happy and leaves the
shop.

The next morning when the barber goes to open up there is a 'thank
you' card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

Later that day, a college professor comes in for a haircut, and when
he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept
money from you. I'm doing community service this week.' The
professor is very happy and leaves the shop.

The next morning when the barber opens his shop, there is a 'thank
you' card and a dozen different books, such as 'How to Improve Your
Business' and 'Becoming More Successful.

'Then, a Congressman comes in for a haircut, and when he goes to pay
his bill the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept money from you.
I'm doing community service this week.' The Congressman is very happy
and leaves the shop.

The next morning when the barber goes to open up, there are a dozen
Congressmen lined up waiting for a free haircut.

And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between
the citizens of our country and the members of our Congress.

Vote carefully this year.

[DianaB]

That's cute, Judy and probably very true!!!

[Marilyn]

Judy, that was too funny and as Diana said, probably true.

BTW, they are saying that Texas may be as swing state this year. So we may see some political commercials after all.

Only problem is..... I hate to say this but hispanics as a rule probably won't vote for a black candidate. Please don't hit me for saying that. I'm not at all prejudiced. I've had several hispanics tell me that themselves. They believe that most would rather vote for a woman for president than for a black person, and the majority of them will vote democrat. So if Obama has a chance here, he's got to draw the independents and liberal republicans. Where we live, whites are in the minority, so I have several close hispanic friends. Some close enough to be considered family.

I really wish all the primaries were the same day in the entire nation. The early primaries affect the voting in the other states way too much!!

Janet, Indiana should be a swing state, too. Isn't your primary in March, also??

[Tink]

It's an amazingly close race for the Dems... The republicans though don't seem to have much of a contest going on at this point.

[Janet]

Judy, that was too funny and as Diana said, probably true.

BTW, they are saying that Texas may be as swing state this year. So we may see some political commercials after all.

Only problem is..... I hate to say this but hispanics as a rule probably won't vote for a black candidate. Please don't hit me for saying that. I'm not at all prejudiced. I've had several hispanics tell me that themselves. They believe that most would rather vote for a woman for president than for a black person, and the majority of them will vote democrat. So if Obama has a chance here, he's got to draw the independents and liberal republicans. Where we live, whites are in the minority, so I have several close hispanic friends. Some close enough to be considered family.

I really wish all the primaries were the same day in the entire nation. The early primaries affect the voting in the other states way too much!!

Janet, Indiana should be a swing state, too. Isn't your primary in March, also??

I'm not sure if we'll be a swing state, but our primary is in May.

[Marilyn]

I'm not sure if we'll be a swing state, but our primary is in May.

:eek: May :eek: This just emphasizes my point. Most of the country will have already had their primaries and a lot of folks will make up their mind based on what the rest of the country did rather than all of us deciding on our own and voting at once. We won't even have a chance to vote on the candidates who already dropped out!!!

This needs to change!!!

[judy]

That's what they're saying on the NYC news too Marilyn. They expect the Hispanics to vote for Hillary, and Obama to get the balance of the Democratic votes.

I agree, the primaries should be on the same day. Then we know who is running and that's that. They are going to have about 5 unexpected swing states. I wonder what changed? These were Republican states until now.

[AngieDoogles]

:eek: May :eek: This just emphasizes my point. Most of the country will have already had their primaries and a lot of folks will make up their mind based on what the rest of the country did rather than all of us deciding on our own and voting at once. We won't even have a chance to vote on the candidates who already dropped out!!!

This needs to change!!!

You know what frustrates me even more than this? The whole super delegate thing! :mad: How ridiculous is it that 800 people each get a vote that counts practically the same as a whole precinct?! What's the point in having primaries if they're going to disregard what we say anyway... :thumbdwn:

But yes, I also agree that it would be much better to have all of the primaries and caucuses at the same time. It'd be much more fair to all of the candidates AND voters that way. But I doubt the parties would ever go for it. They don't seem to like changes like that. Just look what the democratic party did to Florida over the voting schedule...

[HALEY]

If Obama wins i believe were all in trouble, i just feel that he is so anti-american, i just read alot of bad stuff about him.....

[AngieDoogles]

If Obama wins i believe were all in trouble, i just feel that he is so anti-american, i just read alot of bad stuff about him.....

If the bad stuff is that he is Muslim and supports terrorists and such, I suggest you do a quick Snopes search and you'll see that it was all lies made up to turn the populace against him. The rumors have been dispelled, but that doesn't keep them from circulating unfortunately... :(

[HALEY]

If the bad stuff is that he is Muslim and supports terrorists and such, I suggest you do a quick Snopes search and you'll see that it was all lies made up to turn the populace against him. The rumors have been dispelled, but that doesn't keep them from circulating unfortunately... :(
sorry i just would never vote for him, i just don't like him at all..

[AngieDoogles]

sorry i just would never vote for him, i just don't like him at all..

That's fine. That's the great thing about America. We all get to have our own opinion and vote. :) I just hate to see when someone has been misinformed and hope you will research so that you can get a better understanding of the candidates. Sometimes it's hard to see the truth when there are so many rumors... Snopes and FactCheck.org are good unbiased sources. :)

[HALEY]

That's fine. That's the great thing about America. We all get to have our own opinion and vote. :) I just hate to see when someone has been misinformed and hope you will research so that you can get a better understanding of the candidates. Sometimes it's hard to see the truth when there are so many rumors... Snopes and FactCheck.org are good unbiased sources. :)
besides i would love to see a woman president, men screwed up this country and i believe a woman can fix it....

[AngieDoogles]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kkk.asp

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2422426349406240436&q=cnn+obama+muslim+rumor&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

All of these accusations are false.

[AngieDoogles]

besides i would love to see a woman president, men screwed up this country and i believe a woman can fix it....

I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D

[HALEY]

I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D
i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

[AngieDoogles]

i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

I think PA will go for Hilary. My MIL is an avid Hilary supporter as well. Almost everyone I know in PA is. lol

[cindy0721]

I'd LOVE to see a woman president as well...just not Hilary. ;) :D


I AGREE just not here.. she literally is a PERFECT example of not having your own voice... she voted for the war on IRAQ... she voted for the border fence, she voted for the high tax break to million dollar companies.. and now she retracts and says she is not for it... geez... stick to your guns...

I LOVE OBAMA.... he says what he thinks and believes and sticks to it come hell or high water.... he is so sincere and I believe he HAS WHAT IT TAKES to CHANGE THIS THING AROUND and bring people of all parties together~:thumbup: :thumbup:


I can't wait til we vote on the 4th!

[AngieDoogles]

I AGREE just not here.. she literally is a PERFECT example of not having your own voice... she voted for the war on IRAQ... she voted for the border fence, she voted for the high tax break to million dollar companies.. and now she retracts and says she is not for it... geez... stick to your guns...

I LOVE OBAMA.... he says what he thinks and believes and sticks to it come hell or high water.... he is so sincere and I believe he HAS WHAT IT TAKES to CHANGE THIS THING AROUND and bring people of all parties together~:thumbup: :thumbup:


I can't wait til we vote on the 4th!


Great point! I think Hilary is MUCH too divisive. We need a nation united, not divided. We need to work for bipartisanism, not alienate those with differences. In every speech I've seen of Hilary's (and trust me, I've seen A LOT!), I can't help but notice how she alienates anyone who doesn't agree with her 100%. We can accomplish so much more if we work together--and by "we" I mean Democrats, Republicans, AND the American public. No need to focus on the differences when we have so many things in common. Just my two cents.

[Rhonda]

:rolleyes: The thing with Hillary is in her statements it is always I I I I I well this I has a problem with anyone male or female.

I agree with most women when they say this country is ready for a female president just not that female.

:rolleyes:

[cindy0721]

i will always like Hilary, don't care for her husband, but she's ok in my book!

but its almost known that her hubby will have a input in this election too... think about it.. he is obviously VERY involved in her campaign.. what makes you think it will change IF she becomes president? :eek:

[Marilyn]

Here's a pic that emphasizes what I said about Hillary and the Latino vote here in Texas. Some people say that hispanics even have pictures of President Clinton in their living rooms like they do La Virgen de Guadalupe. She's making quite a run in South Texas this week. Surprisingly thought, I have been seeing some Latinos endorsing Obama. It may be a close race even here!!
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By the way, the reason that some of the Republican states are swing states for the Democrates is that with the Democratic candidates so close, even the delegates from the Republican states are important to the result. I too don't like the super delegate method. That seem sooo unfair to the popular vote.

[Marilyn]

By the way, because Texas is usually so neglected by the candidates, people are driving halfway across the state to try to see Hillary at one of her events only to be turned away because of the huge crowds. The head of the local democratic party is a friend of mine. He didn't try to go due to work conflicts, but he knows some folks who did who were turned away.

I will be interesting to see what happens when Obama makes his run through here. They are debating here later in the month. I think in Austin, but I'm not sure. Obama has spoken there twice, but it was months ago.

[HALEY]

but its almost known that her hubby will have a input in this election too... think about it.. he is obviously VERY involved in her campaign.. what makes you think it will change IF she becomes president? :eek:
He's not a bad guy if he keeps his pants on, i don't care what anyone says Hilary is getting my vote and the rest of my family are voting for her, cause i can't stand Obama, i believe if he wins were all in trouble ... that's my two cents...

[Janet]

I just wish there was someone worth voting for, I don't trust either one. I think we're headed for disaster no matter who wins.

[DianaB]

I just wish there was someone worth voting for, I don't trust either one. I think we're headed for disaster no matter who wins.

I wish that there was someone who really stood out as the right one.

[judy]

I have a good feeling about Obama. I would very much like to see him as President.

Actually, personalities aside, I don't see much difference between Hillary and McCain on the issues. Of course, McCain will probably be more conservative.

I will say that whatever her personality, Hillary has been a good senator for NY.
We have not suffered at all under her watch. She also feels strongly about certain issues that I agree with, such as medical coverage for all.

I don't feel that any of them would be a disaster at all. We're in economic trouble, in a war that should end, but how and when is still uncertain, we're faced with terrorism, the health care issue, the immigrant issue, and what else? Our education system is terrible in urban areas. Some of these, like the financial and terrorism problems are global, some are going to take years to fix, like the inner city schools. I think the values of many of our citizens are horrendous. I do not blame the government for this.

Each of us, like Angie's poem stated, needs to take responsibility for our own environments. I do like what Hillary said...."It takes a village to raise a child."
We need to take care of each other. Our government isn't going to do that anymore.

[Janet]

I loved your post Judy. I also agree with Diana. As for right now...none really stand out as the right one.

[Tink]

I've always considered myself an independant. So the 2 ruling parties have to party on without me. LOL

I think the main thing McCain lacks is charisma. He's about as appealing as a dead fish. While that shouldn't be a criteria for president, we all know it is.

Hillary I think is saying what she thinks we want to hear... regardless what her real game plan is. She put up with a cheating husband to achieve her personal goals and did her best to turn it around to her advantage. I don't want to see her elected, and I SURE don't want to see BILL back in the White House! I still can't believe so many have conveniently forgotten that he perjored himself under oath and was nearly impeached! Yet some will sing his praises as the finest pres we ever had. Sorry, but I'm not convinced.

Obama has some good ideas... he appeals to the working man... but he keeps saying "I'll bring change! We need change!" What kind of change is the question.

Also, with the history of what happens to black men when they rise too high... Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X just to point out the 2 most well known names in recent history...
Can you imagine if Obama were to be elected and was assassinated? There would be a race war in our country unlike any we have ever imagined. Radicals on both sides would be up in arms before his body was cold.

I don't care about the color of the president... a good president could be a smurf for all I care. Yet there are people who will care deeply and even if 99% of us are good with it, that 1% could assassinate him, start a race war and throw our country into violence unlike anything we've ever seen. I do think that needs to be considered.

I truly don't know who to vote for. I like Obama more than the other front runners... but I do worry about whether he'd be allowed to succeed.

[judy]

There was a quick "Person in the street" poll about Obama, and a young black man said that if he were to win, he'd be assassinated. Your fears are very real Tink!

[judy]

I loved your post Judy. I also agree with Diana. As for right now...none really stand out as the right one.

;)
Thank you very much

[Lindsey]

It doesn't really matter, but I'll throw in my two cents. Even here in Canada, we're pretty bombarded with stuff about the US presidential election! I'm a fan of Obama, and I truthfully can't really say why. He seems more personable to me. He seems less "I want to rule!" and more "I want to fix"
The thing I don't like is that you only end up with two choices. What if you don't like either?

[judy]

You're stuck with choosing the lesser of the two evils, which is why many people don't bother voting.

How do you guys do it?

[Tink]

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking of that Judy. I seriously feel we need to think beyond the elections... to what affect each would have on our lives. I think many think of the elections as they do a wedding... the big day itself gets so much attention that we lose focus of what the long term affects it will be.

Yes, it's long past time to have a woman or a minority represented in the white house... but are we really ready to deal with the repercussions?

[Lindsey]

Well, we have a whole crapload of people to vote for here :) There are a few big ones but a lot of little ones as well. I just checked wikipedia to see which parties were around for our last election and this is the list:
Conservative Party of Canada
Liberal Party of Canada
Bloc Québécois
New Democratic Party
Green Party of Canada
Christian Heritage Party of Canada
Progressive Canadian Party
Marijuana Party of Canada
Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist)
Canadian Action Party
Communist Party of Canada
Libertarian Party of Canada
First Peoples National Party of Canada
Western Block Party
Animal Alliance Environment Voters Party
The Conservatives, Liberals, Bloc, and NDP are really the big ones. We had the Liberal party in power with Jean Chretien since the beginning of time (I swear, he was Prime Minister forever) but he stepped down and Paul Martin (Liberal) took over and there was this huge sponsorship scandal which forced another election. The Conservatives are now in power, but only as a minority government. They only ended up with about 40% of the vote, but it was more than any other party. So the minority government means that they are relying on the support of other parties to stay in power. If our current PM (Stephen Harper) starts making big decisions that the other parties are against, another election will be called. No minority government in the history of Canada has ever stayed in power for the full 4 year term!

[Marilyn]

Lindsey, that is a complicated system you have. We actually have many more parties if you really look into it, but the two real parties are the ones you hear so much about. The others are just there to kinda be on the record for having another opinion on things.

Tink, I never thought about "what if Obama was assassinated". That is really something to think about!! That would cause a race war for sure!!!. Just look at what happens when a white cop treats a black man badly on camera. That is nothing compared to what would happen if a black President were assassinated. And the blacks would forget that it took the approval of all the other races to get the black candidate elected. It's not like we as a whole have anything against him, but we would suffer none the less.

I agree, we don't have a very good choice this time. Basically of the three, I like Obama, but there are things that he is for that I am very much against. This year is a no-win. I do think a lot of people will just not bother to vote in the general election. I too am an Independent but with Libertarian tendencies. I just think the government needs to get out of our business. While I do think that we need to do something to make our healthcare more affordable for lower income people, I do not favor socialized medicine. There is a reason that much of the priviledged in the world comes to the US for their healthcare.

We need to each have our own personal moral system to dictate how we act and how we treat each other. The government is not the answer to all our problems. We need to take responsibility for our actions and teach the children in our schools from pre-K on to be responisible moral human beings.

I'll get off my soapbox now. :o

[judy]

Lindsey, that is a complicated system you have. We actually have many more parties if you really look into it, but the two real parties are the ones you hear so much about. The others are just there to kinda be on the record for having another opinion on things.

Tink, I never thought about "what if Obama was assassinated". That is really something to think about!! That would cause a race war for sure!!!. Just look at what happens when a white cop treats a black man badly on camera. That is nothing compared to what would happen if a black President were assassinated. And the blacks would forget that it took the approval of all the other races to get the black candidate elected. It's not like we as a whole have anything against him, but we would suffer none the less.

I agree, we don't have a very good choice this time. Basically of the three, I like Obama, but there are things that he is for that I am very much against. This year is a no-win. I do think a lot of people will just not bother to vote in the general election. I too am an Independent but with Libertarian tendencies. I just think the government needs to get out of our business. While I do think that we need to do something to make our healthcare more affordable for lower income people, I do not favor socialized medicine. There is a reason that much of the priviledged in the world comes to the US for their healthcare.

We need to each have our own personal moral system to dictate how we act and how we treat each other. The government is not the answer to all our problems. We need to take responsibility for our actions and teach the children in our schools from pre-K on to be responisible moral human beings.

I'll get off my soapbox now. :o



Great post Marilyn! I agree with everything you said, and you said it so well.

[Janet]

I agree Marilyn...a great post!

[Marilyn]

Thank you, thank you, :notworthy: I'd run for office, but the press would probably find out about the late library books and late videos from Blockbuster and my reputation would be shot!! Oh, and the baby sitters I never sent a 1099 to. They'd never forgive me for that!!!

[Lindsey]

Lindsey, that is a complicated system you have. We actually have many more parties if you really look into it, but the two real parties are the ones you hear so much about. The others are just there to kinda be on the record for having another opinion on things.

I guess it does seem a bit complicated by my post, but it's not really that bad! :) What I like about it is that really the people get what the people want. It's a big ordeal to get a U.S. president out of power before his term is up, isn't it? Here if you're not liked, you're outta there! For example, if we were the ones heading the war in Iraq and the opposition said "Oh hell no, the people of Canada want no part of this!" then if the minority government didn't change their mind, another election would be called, and we would then vote for either a government who wants to go to war, or a government that doesn't, or a government who has a completely different idea. Basically, everyone's gotta agree, or at least partially agree, before something goes through, or else they risk an election and loss of power.

[Marilyn]

I guess it does seem a bit complicated by my post, but it's not really that bad! :) What I like about it is that really the people get what the people want. It's a big ordeal to get a U.S. president out of power before his term is up, isn't it? Here if you're not liked, you're outta there! For example, if we were the ones heading the war in Iraq and the opposition said "Oh hell no, the people of Canada want no part of this!" then if the minority government didn't change their mind, another election would be called, and we would then vote for either a government who wants to go to war, or a government that doesn't, or a government who has a completely different idea. Basically, everyone's gotta agree, or at least partially agree, before something goes through, or else they risk an election and loss of power.

Wow, sounds like a novel idea!!!!! Government by the people for the people and of the people. Isn't that called democracy or something. Isn't democracy what we are trying to force on the Middle East. Maybe we should try it here in the US!!?? Ya think????

[Tink]

Well I'm up for a change... but it's hard to get when money rules.

[judy]

That's a serious democracy Lindsey! We're actually not a true democracy - we have a capitalistic government.

We have many, many rights, and I love America, but we do have to be realistic about what kind of government we have. When the majority (of electoral votes, not citizens) rules, the minority loses.