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Originally Posted by Shada
Have you thought about taping him so he can hear exactly how bad it is?
That might be what he needs to understand how bad it can be.
Understanding a problem makes it much easier to fix.
Until then.. keep on nudging him! Or... out he goes.. good luck!
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Great idea about the tape recorder!  Don't forget to turn the volume up. 
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When I grow up I want to be a horse whisperer!
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