My Lucas' Liver Issues

[MaddieBoo]

Hi Everyone,

I posted this in YT too, just wondering if anyone here has had experience... I'm sorry I'll keep this as short as possible, I just knew I could come here for advice.

My furbutt is Lucas, turned 1 on September 14th. Happy, healthy, rambunctious, playful, hilarious, and (on occasion) a naughty little yorkie. We have never had any problems with his health or his behaviour, to us he is perfect and we love him more every day.

This week, I took him to get groomed by our breeder, who informed me at our appointment that his brother/littermate has been diagnosed with Liver Shunt. The breeder also has Lucas' sister/littermate and suggested to me that we get them both a Bile Acid test to ensure that they do not have it as well. Of course I agreed and yesterday, we took them both to the same vet we both go to. Today the breeder left a message on our machine saying she was going to a town outside our city to another vet based on the results. We were very confused so we called the vet and got Lucas' results.

The vet said that it is unlikely that he has liver shunt,especially since he has had no signs or symptoms that anything is wrong. But his levels are much higher than a normal dog's functioning liver 75 versus 25. She thinks it is probably "microvascular", which she said is common in small breeds. I'm so upset and worried that my little guy is sick, and I really don't know enough about liver conditions.

I just need some advice on what exactly this could be, and what I should do. They say they can do a biopsy to find out exactly what is wrong, and that it would be done maybe by ultrasound or they may have to cut him open which I would really not prefer.

Should I pursue further testing? Is there anything in his day to day life I should be changing?

They also suggested a supplement of amino acids that may help, and I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this?

Is this something my breeder should have tested his parents for before breeding? Or is this a fluke that no one could have done anything about? I don't want to blame her at all, we think she is so awesome, I just do not know how this occurs.

I'm just devastated and I think it is because I do not know enough about it. Any information or experience with Liver shunt or "microvascular" would be very helpful, since I know there are bound to be some resident experts with this.

Thank you so so much.

[paula1961]

Oh Maddie! I totally understand how worried you must be. I don't have any experience with liver problems. I have bred mine only once and didn't even know about the testing and all that until I became a member of YT. You have to do what you think is best for you and Lucas. If you trust your vet and they said to give him the supplement..maybe you should try that. I truly don't know but I certainly hope that everything turns out for the best for your Lucas. Please keep us informed. I do give mine(I have three) a supplement called Nupro, it has amino acids/protein in it. You can find it online, maybe you might want to read about it. It is suppose to be a very good supplement. They will also send you some free samples. Nuprosupplements.com Good luck sweetie

[DianaB]

Janet is our breeder on here and she might know something about it. Gina has been through something with Gucci but I can't remember exactly what it was. Just make sure you check back soon and the other girls will probably have some info for you. I hope that you find out that it's nothing serious.

[Gina]

Maddie...

My Gucci is now 5 yrs. old and she was not from a breeder we brought her from a puppy store. I did not know about breeders back then long story short I was never shopping for a dog, when my daughter fell in love with her in a puppy store.. Knowing what I know today I would never buy from a store, but we fell in love with Gucci and I have no regrets in buying or caring for her along with the costly medical bills...We are all in love with this cutie.

Gucci was a healthy little puppy when we brought her home she was tiny about 3lbs. at 2 mts.old she was growing nicely and playful. When she was two years old one weekend she started vomiting , shaking and lethargic . I was not home that day and my husband and son rushed her to the hospital and the nightmare began. All test

[Gina]

Oh no I lost the whole post when I went to edit.. is there someway to retrieve ?

[Gina]

Ok I rewrote here goes..
Maddie...

My Gucci is now 5 yrs. old and she was not from a breeder we brought her from a puppy store. I did not know about breeders back then long story short I was never shopping for a dog, when my daughter fell in love with her in a puppy store.. Knowing what I know today I would never buy from a store, but we fell in love with Gucci and I have no regrets in buying or caring for her along with the costly medical bills...We are all in love with this cutie.

Gucci was a healthy little puppy when we brought her home she was tiny about 3 lbs. at 2 mts.old she was growing nicely and playful. When she was two years old one weekend she started vomiting , shaking and lethargic . I was not home that day and my husband and son rushed her to the hospital and the nightmare began. They tested her bile's and did an ultrasound. All tests came back that she had liver shunt and we had no choice but to have her operated on. The surgeon was excellent and he explained that she had a single portal shunt and needed to have ameroid constrictor ring put on. She also has micro vascular shunts within the liver but that they cannot operate on that. If you are a member of YT , go back and research my posts I am GucciMyGirl on YT. I don't remember off hand all the testing and what not but I do have notes written and if you need to know anything further I can check for you. I know Gucci did not have a biopsy her tests all showed that she had the shunt.


Fast forward to today Gucci is a whopping 11.5 pds piggy lol.. She lives on the L/D diet from Hills, in which many of the connoisseurs on YT do not approve of. But it works for my girl she was released from the surgeons care about a year ago, he said she is FINE.. She is kept on this diet along with seeing a nutritious dr. she is allowed to have healthy snacks.. banana, apples , cheerios... Maddie I don't know what you feed Lucas but be careful for the protein contexts and fats..

My suggestion is to take the acid tests and then go from there, he may not have Liver Shunt , if he does has the micro vascular shunts there is nothing really to do for that as far as operating goes. Speak to the vet do not be afraid to ask questions and write everything down. Read articles on the Internet make yourself educated on this disease.. Don't worry everything will be fine, if the worst case scenario that he has it take care of it now. There is hope and it doesn't have to mean a death sentence.

I hope that you get good news and I will keep Lucas in my prayers as all these other wonderful ladies will... Any other questions I am here for you.. Good luck!


PS I know nothing about breeders Janet can help there...

[judy]

Originally Posted by Gina

Oh no I lost the whole post when I went to edit.. is there someway to retrieve ?

Sometimes when that happens, I can go to Edit on my browser, hit "Undo" and I get back what was wiped out.