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Old 11-29-2006, 11:26 AM   #1
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Then vs. Now: Sad but True

Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
1973.....Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.
2006 ......School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

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Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1973 ......Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.
2006 .......Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

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Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1973 ........Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.
2006 ......Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

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Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.
1973 ........Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2006........Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

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Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to school.
1973 ............Mark shares headache medicine with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2006 ........... Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

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Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.
1973 .........5 High School Boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a special school for expectant mothers.
2006.........Middle School Counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over and gets an abortion without her parent's consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more careful next time.

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Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2006: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English.

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Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1973 ....... Ants die.
2006........... BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:22 PM   #2
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it's sad
but a lot of this is true
especially the one about getting pregnant, and the learning English one.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:13 PM   #3
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Isn't it sad what things are coming to?
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:44 PM   #4
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I think I saw this on YT or somewhere...something to think about isn't it. How sad!!
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:48 PM   #5
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I think I saw this on YT or somewhere...something to think about isn't it. How sad!!
I posted it in both places...here and on YT. I'm so bad!
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:10 PM   #6
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Yes it is very sad to think of what the world has become in the last say 30 years, if this is any inkling of the future and things don't get better. This world is in big trouble.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:08 PM   #7
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There's a lot to truth to this. I'm so glad my daughters are in college, and not in elementary school. Things are getting worse and quickly.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:57 PM   #8
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As a nation we've lost our common sense.
It's only going to get worse as people continue to over react and try to believe we can prevent every bad thing from happening if we're PROactive.

No one wants to accept that accidents happen... it's always got to be someones fault. And Kids aren't allowed to be disciplined, and their schedules are so full of structure that they also aren't allowed to be kids.

Just my opinion, but I'd HATE to be a kid in todays world.

**getting off my soapbox now**
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:17 PM   #9
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To be completely honest, since I've only recently been though public education, none of these are true. Perhaps there have been a few extreme cases that get plastered all over the media, but that's not how it is.

1 - Yes, the student would be in serious trouble for bringing a gun to school, but then again he was the stupid one to drive to school with a gun in a gun rack. You can complain all you want, but as parents would you honestly want a gun on the premises of you child's school?
2 - Police are only called to fist fights when it's on a massive scale. One fight will be broken up by security or teachers and the individuals involved will spend time in in school suspension. Would you rather them get a light tap on the back of the hand and let them go, or taught that violence isn't the answer? Cause appearantly their parents didn't.
3 - Simply put: not true.
4 - When was the last time that the CPS was willing to get off their butts and help people? Even the one's who seriously need their help?
5 - I've had Advil at school before, they don't have a problem with it. And if it's that big of a problem, leave some Advil or whatever with the school nurse. They don't expel kids of over the counter meds.
6 - Pregnant girl stays in school. If parents would raise their kids right maybe they'd learn to keep their legs shut in the first place.
7 - Pedro must pass English to graduate. It's still a requirement.
8 - I guess all the people that get caught shooting off fireworks get punished the same way.
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Old 11-30-2006, 05:47 PM   #10
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Lissa, I'm glad your school experience wasn't like that!

Sadly, it IS that way here in Wisconsin, where my youngest just graduated.

I know kids who got arrested for fighting in school. One on One punches that resulted in both being arrested.
I know one who got expelled for a sarcastic remark that even the teacher he made it to admitted was just a bad joke...
The kids here used to be allowed to take rifles to school to attend gun safety classes which were required if you want to hunt prior to age 16 and there has never been an incidence of violence with one here in school. Now they can't use a "look alike" gun in a school play because kids elsewhere misbehaved with them.
My own son was a class clown and we fought the school to keep him off ritalin.... finally tests showed he has a very high IQ and was simply bored senseless, so instead of giving him help as they would have if he'd have been ADHD, they made life so hard for him that we ended up pulling him out to homeschool him.

I have very little faith in public schools and wish every child had viable alternatives to it. I stand by my former post as one who has seen what the original post claimed up close and personal. I graduated in 1973, so am able to compare the dates realistically.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:37 AM   #11
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here in California, I JUST got outof highschool
a lot of those ARE true
youre lucky you have'nt had those experiences!

and with failing English
I live in Southern California
my gosh is it ridiculous how many kids know NO english at all
and I live in an expensive area, they lie about their address to get in here.
If they fail English, they are let off because they don't speak English.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:17 PM   #12
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I graduated high school in 2002 and I have a 16 year old sister who is currently in high school so I can attest that this is definately the way it is in Alabama, too. Yes, some of them may be somewhat exaggerated, but it is a reality that today's society is not as safe as it was in the 70s.
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