Grass

JJJ · 05-17-2011, 08:12 AM

I recently moved back to my house and my backyard has no grass

Would it be better to buy patches of grass or buy some sort of seeds to grow grass. I never once planted anything in my life so I'm totally lost here. Is there a brand or useful soil or miracle grow

Janet · 05-18-2011, 04:31 PM

I hope Gayle sees this she's the one with the green thumb. Me???? I'd just throw out some grass seed and see what happens...lol

gja1000 · 05-18-2011, 05:39 PM

What kind of grass do you want Jessica? Is your backyard shady or sunny? If very shady, about the only grass you can plant is St. Augustine. If part sunny/shady, you can plant zoysia or St. Augustine. Zoysia and St. Augustine can't be seeded, it has to be planted in squares or plugs. If it is totally sunny, you'd be best to go with bermuda or buffalo grass. Bermuda can be seeded, I'm not sure about buffalo. Buffalo grass is the best and requires much less water and mowing. You CANNOT keep bermuda out of flower beds, it is very invasive and I hate it, but bermuda and buffalo are about the only choices if your backyard is sunny. Also, anything you plant right now is going to need lots of water for the rest of the summer as it will die if not watered at least twice a week (more frequently when you first plant or seed it).

If the backyard is hard dirt, then you will need to amend the soil before planting any type of grass. You may need to have it tilled up (plowed) and definitely need to have some compost worked into or tilled into the soil. If the soil is loose and easily dug up, then it will probably be OK to put grass in without amending the soil - but it will need to be tilled or loosened before putting in grass.

JJJ · 05-18-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet

I hope Gayle sees this she's the one with the green thumb. Me???? I'd just throw out some grass seed and see what happens...lol

Lol, that would be me too.

Ok Gayle I will re-read this again. My man said my backyard is shady ( I actually like that) but I do see sun

I do have hard dirt

Also, I would like to learn how to plant a garden or some rose/flower beds. Would that need to be consider when picking the grass. I have a small area in front of my house that's not connected to my front yard that gets lots of sun.

Ok now I need to surf for St Augustine

judy · 05-19-2011, 06:07 AM

How nice Jessica! It will make your house so beautiful, and gardening is so satisfying!

JJJ · 05-19-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by judy

How nice Jessica! It will make your house so beautiful, and gardening is so satisfying!

My problem with hobbies is that I'm always willing but I never finish

But now that I hit my big 30 I hope I can finish a task

gja1000 · 05-19-2011, 11:56 AM

OK, if you are going to try to have a garden or rose bed, do NOT put bermuda back there - it will be in the garden and beds and you won't be able to keep it out. You will HATE it!

Put the roses in the sunny area you mentioned - they MUST have 6-8 hours of direct sun every day - they won't live nor bloom in shade. Knockout roses or antique roses are the easiest to grow. The hybrid roses get all sorts of diseases and are quite tedious to grow, but knockout roses and antique roses are very easy, as long as they are in the sun. Pay attention to the tag that lists their size (how tall and wide they will get). Some antique roses get VERY tall and wide. I don't think knockout roses get very big though.

DianaB · 05-20-2011, 11:08 AM

Gayle, you are such a help!!! I really appreciate you!!!!

Could you come up here and help me get my yard figured out??? I can do the flowers but when it comes to grass......UGH!!!!

If it weren't for crabgrass and weeds I'd have NOTHING in my yard!!!! Hubby figures that since he planted it once that it's good enough!!!......I will admit that I DO have a little bit of grass....but not much!!!

JJJ · 05-20-2011, 11:22 AM

I totally agree with Diana , you are so helpful in many areas. I'm going to go shopping for grass today.

Keep your fingers cross people

gja1000 · 05-20-2011, 01:57 PM

LOL! Diana! I am of NO help about grass that grows in Kansas!!! I know bermuda will grow up there, but you know how I feel about bermuda.

I think there is a type of zoysia grass and I think it is called zenith - that may grow well. Also tall fescue might do well up there but I'm not sure. Just poke around on the internet to find a grass that is not invasive - bermuda is definitely INVASIVE!

Janet · 05-20-2011, 03:15 PM

I can tell you're noy from around here Gayle..lolol....I've only heard of Bluegrass...that's what we planted.

gja1000 · 05-20-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet

I can tell you're noy from around here Gayle..lolol....I've only heard of Bluegrass...that's what we planted.

LOL! No, I certainly don't know a thing about northern grass. I have lived in northern Oklahoma, which is close to where Diana lives.

05-17-2011, 08:12 AM	#1
JJJ Donating 4WT Addict Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,073	Grass I recently moved back to my house and my backyard has no grass Would it be better to buy patches of grass or buy some sort of seeds to grow grass. I never once planted anything in my life so I'm totally lost here. Is there a brand or useful soil or miracle grow

05-18-2011, 04:31 PM	#2
Janet Moderator Donating 4WT 18K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 21,624	I hope Gayle sees this she's the one with the green thumb. Me???? I'd just throw out some grass seed and see what happens...lol __________________ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. ECCLESIASTES 3:1

05-18-2011, 05:39 PM	#3
gja1000 Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Texas Posts: 5,717	What kind of grass do you want Jessica? Is your backyard shady or sunny? If very shady, about the only grass you can plant is St. Augustine. If part sunny/shady, you can plant zoysia or St. Augustine. Zoysia and St. Augustine can't be seeded, it has to be planted in squares or plugs. If it is totally sunny, you'd be best to go with bermuda or buffalo grass. Bermuda can be seeded, I'm not sure about buffalo. Buffalo grass is the best and requires much less water and mowing. You CANNOT keep bermuda out of flower beds, it is very invasive and I hate it, but bermuda and buffalo are about the only choices if your backyard is sunny. Also, anything you plant right now is going to need lots of water for the rest of the summer as it will die if not watered at least twice a week (more frequently when you first plant or seed it). If the backyard is hard dirt, then you will need to amend the soil before planting any type of grass. You may need to have it tilled up (plowed) and definitely need to have some compost worked into or tilled into the soil. If the soil is loose and easily dug up, then it will probably be OK to put grass in without amending the soil - but it will need to be tilled or loosened before putting in grass. __________________ Gayle

05-19-2011, 06:07 AM	#5
judy Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, NY Posts: 8,097	How nice Jessica! It will make your house so beautiful, and gardening is so satisfying! __________________ *Judy*

05-19-2011, 11:56 AM	#7
gja1000 Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Texas Posts: 5,717	OK, if you are going to try to have a garden or rose bed, do NOT put bermuda back there - it will be in the garden and beds and you won't be able to keep it out. You will HATE it! Put the roses in the sunny area you mentioned - they MUST have 6-8 hours of direct sun every day - they won't live nor bloom in shade. Knockout roses or antique roses are the easiest to grow. The hybrid roses get all sorts of diseases and are quite tedious to grow, but knockout roses and antique roses are very easy, as long as they are in the sun. Pay attention to the tag that lists their size (how tall and wide they will get). Some antique roses get VERY tall and wide. I don't think knockout roses get very big though. __________________ Gayle

05-20-2011, 11:08 AM	#8
DianaB Moderator Donating 4WT 13K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 16,069	Gayle, you are such a help!!! I really appreciate you!!!! Could you come up here and help me get my yard figured out??? I can do the flowers but when it comes to grass......UGH!!!! If it weren't for crabgrass and weeds I'd have NOTHING in my yard!!!! Hubby figures that since he planted it once that it's good enough!!!......I will admit that I DO have a little bit of grass....but not much!!!

05-20-2011, 11:22 AM	#9
JJJ Donating 4WT Addict Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,073	I totally agree with Diana , you are so helpful in many areas. I'm going to go shopping for grass today. Keep your fingers cross people

05-20-2011, 01:57 PM	#10
gja1000 Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Texas Posts: 5,717	LOL! Diana! I am of NO help about grass that grows in Kansas!!! I know bermuda will grow up there, but you know how I feel about bermuda. I think there is a type of zoysia grass and I think it is called zenith - that may grow well. Also tall fescue might do well up there but I'm not sure. Just poke around on the internet to find a grass that is not invasive - bermuda is definitely INVASIVE! __________________ Gayle

05-20-2011, 03:15 PM	#11
Janet Moderator Donating 4WT 18K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 21,624	I can tell you're noy from around here Gayle..lolol....I've only heard of Bluegrass...that's what we planted. __________________ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. ECCLESIASTES 3:1

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