Tomorrow's a Big Day!!

[Marilyn]

Melissa, your pop and I will do what we can to keep Hillary out of the White House. We sure don't want you ending up in the Bahamas!! The Texas caucuses are currently favoring Obama, however all the results are not in yet. So Texas may still give Obama a few more delegates. It's not an all or nothing deal in either Texas or Ohio. Hillary may have won, but the margin in Texas was not that large. They will split the delegates pretty evenly if the caucuses stay on the current track.

Pennsylvania, has to come out strong for Obama. Gooooo Pennsylvania!!!

The cheating thing was bad, but it was the lying that really put it over the top. He's cheated on her so many times throughout their marriage, I just don't see how that marriage could be anything but a convenient agreement to achieve their political aspirations. Too bad for Bill, because he could have gone down as one of the best presidents. He screwed it all up for a 20 year old kid. So stupid.

Also, Hillary is not my favorite by any means. I hate that she is so flakey, and whines at Barack for doing the same things she does. She comes across as awfully snotty during their debates, and it just reinforces the idea that she is a true politician. People are tired of the same old choices, and the includes Hillary. I will be doing some serious volunteer work in Pennsylvania to get the word out.

[AngieDoogles]

Originally Posted by CoyoteQueen

lmao, jess our forum obama girl!

Nope, that's my title! I've been supporting Obama since before he even announced he was running. Maybe we could share the title.

sure Angie!!! I think in this case Jess will gladly share her man!

My husband says that being the president is a stressful job and he thinks presidents should have a "harem" to choose from to relieve the stress. But then he is from Kenya, and we all know Kenyans are crazy, especially Luo Kenyans......... OMG!!!! jess, isnt that what Obama is???

[Marilyn]

Obama's father is from Kenya. They say the whole country over there is watching and rooting for him.

We thought people were ready for a change, but they say in the last three days the undecided voters in both Texas and Ohio jumped on the Hillary wagon. Most of the large cities went for Obama, but the small towns almost unanimously favored Hillary in Texas. I was very surprised at that. They say the "traditional" democrats will go for her because of her experience, the sympathy they give her because of Bill's indescretion, and the alliances the Clintons have forged over so very many years.

I'm worried now about Florida and Michigan. They are back in play and may redo their primaries. Both favored Hillary. (Their delegates will not be allowed to count because they violated national party rules and heald their primaries too early.) On one hand it does not seem fair, however, both states knew going in that they were breaking the rules and what the consequences would be and they did it anyway. They had a big meeting about it in Washington this evening and are trying to get the delegates to count.

[pearl]

i don't understand floriad and michigan doing that. it makes not sense. violate rules then want the delegates to count. something wrong there!

i'm for hilary right now, despite all the past. i think she's got what it takes to do what needs to be done more than obama.

Originally Posted by Marilyn

Obama's father is from Kenya. They say the whole country over there is watching and rooting for him.

.

Obama's father and my husband are from the same tribe. Africans everywhere are rooting for him. I got an email lately from a friend in Zimbabwe asking if this is possible! Could the US actually have a Kenyan American president or was it media hype!!!

Most of the Africans I know tend to be quite liberal as well. So he is on the perfect typical for their support. However, the support isnt going to count because they can't vote.

[yorkiemalt]

Originally Posted by CoyoteQueen

Obama's father and my husband are from the same tribe. Africans everywhere are rooting for him. I got an email lately from a friend in Zimbabwe asking if this is possible! Could the US actually have a Kenyan American president or was it media hype!!!

Most of the Africans I know tend to be quite liberal as well. So he is on the perfect typical for their support. However, the support isnt going to count because they can't vote.

*inserts fainting smilie*

I will gladly share my title Angie! I wish there were more people around here that were interested in him. People boo me all the time b/c of my Obama '08 sticker on the car, lol. Or it could be the Philadelphia Eagles sticker...oh well.
Even though Hillary won, he is still ahead in delegates, and it is pretty unlikely that she will overtake that lead. It will probably come down to some sleazy back room politics, in which case she'll win b/c of her connections.
I'm not surprised that she won Ohio, because that state is tailor made for her. Blue collar, middle class citizens tend to vote for her. Pennsylvania is the same unfortunately. He'll for sure take Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and probably Harrisburg as well. But Hillary will probably get everywhere else. I've all ready joined a couple of different groups so that I can help get the word out.
Florida and Michigan's delegates should not be allowed to count. Obama spent zero time campaigning in either state, and his name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. How is that fair for her to automatically get those delegates? It was Hillary or Kucinich for most of the democrats to vote for. My vote would have gone for Kucinich if that was the choice. I'm starting to get nervous, that's for sure....

[Marilyn]

Jess, I'm hearing more and more that he will have the most delegates going into the national convention, but what happens there could be a different story. It all boils down to who the delegates at the convention believe has the better chance of beating McCain. How Obama fairs between now and then will make the difference. He has to come on very strong and not just talk about change. Whether he wants to or not, he's going to have to attach Hillary to have a chance. They are questioning his real estate dealings, he has to question hers. They question his truthfulness about his position on NAFTA, he has to find something to counter.

The most important topic of the campaign is the not the war or healthcare, it's the economy. He has to show that he has a strong plan.

The people have to believe that he is up to the challenge of being Commander-in-Chief, bottomline.

If you want some good information on the campaign, tune into XM130 POTUS 08 (Politics Of The US 08), Politically neutral, unbiased, commercial-free presidential campaign news 24/7.

[pearl]

something just said on the news, and i haven't done the math so don't know if it's accurate...that without any of the florida and michigan delegates counted neither obama nor hilary can get the needed number of delegates...2025...to get the nomination.
don't know if they are including the superdelegates or not.
but, obama wasn't even on the michigan ballot.

[Marilyn]

Originally Posted by pearl

something just said on the news, and i haven't done the math so don't know if it's accurate...that without any of the florida and michigan delegates counted neither obama nor hilary can get the needed number of delegates...2025...to get the nomination.
don't know if they are including the superdelegates or not.
but, obama wasn't even on the michigan ballot.

That's correct. I don't know that with them counted, either one can get enough to clinch it. Whoever has the most going to the convention though should be favored at the conventions, so that's why each vote is so important at this stage. Hillary is pushing hard for these votes to count, since she won both primaries. And as you said, Obama wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. The only way I can see to have these states count is a do over, but no one wants to pay for it. The states want the National Democratic Party to pay & why should they when the states knowingly broke the rules. The states should pay if they want their votes to count. If the rules are bent on this, why do we even have rules?? The Republicans have the same issue, only since McCain is a clear winner, it's a non-issue for them. 1/2 of the Republican delegates from the two states will not count.

Do you realize that if Ralph Nader had not run in 2000, Bush would not have become president. Nader pulled enough of the votes from Al Gore in Florida that had he not run, there would have been no need for a recount. It's amazing in a country so large how little things can have such a great effect.

I have sirius, so I can't listen to that station. But my brother has XM, and he loves listening to that. I still think he has a chance of winning this thing. If he continues on with leading the popular vote, all hell will break lose if the superdelegates side with Hillary. Unforunately, I feel that may happen. I called my sister this morning, so she could find out where in Philly they will be speaking at. I guess Chelsea was all ready at UPenn last night. Doesn't sound like they want to take any chances. I'm going to Philly sunday to go to visit my grandparent's grave, but hopefully I can do something while I'm down there to get involved. If not, I plan on going Monday morning with my daughter. I don't want to sit this one out.

[pearl]

Originally Posted by Marilyn

Do you realize that if Ralph Nader had not run in 2000, Bush would not have become president. Nader pulled enough of the votes from Al Gore in Florida that had he not run, there would have been no need for a recount. It's amazing in a country so large how little things can have such a great effect.

yes! i used to hear back then "george bush won by one vote." meaning the supreme court vote of 5-4.

[judy]

Marilyn - how exciting that you're such a big part of this! I'm on the Obama train as well, but I think that he and Hillary should join forces (to a point) or McCain is going to win.

If they continue their fighting, they'll just look foolish. I agree with you Jess - they would win if they teamed up. I'm looking at the bigger picture though and would like to see a Democratic President for a change. I'm not liking what we have now one little bit.

I don't see much difference between Hillary and McCain. He's not bad, and neither is she. I just want change in our country. I also really like Obama. Michelle is a wonderful woman too!

I hope he wins (crossing fingers)