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judy · 01-10-2008, 07:47 AM

I just googled industrial fire, ND, 10/06. There was a huge fire at the Apex Chemical plant, which may have caused damage to the downtown area.

How's that so far Tink?

Janet · 01-10-2008, 08:32 AM

I went back and checked out the clues Tink, plus what Judy found and I haven't any idea. You're gonna have to tell us before we go crazy.

Tink · 01-10-2008, 08:44 AM

wow... that would have been a mess, but not the one I'm referring to.
This fire took place on Halloween 2006. Donnybrook Fire Department and Kenmare Fire Departments responded.

Tink · 01-10-2008, 12:08 PM

Ok the clue were...
it's a 24/7 type of business that you can't leave for a weekend and get away from.

Something valuable financially and emotionally was lost in the fire that insurance wouldn't cover.

I took them 10 yrs to develop something to the point they wanted... and will take time to do it again...

There is a real difference in what size of "product" you're dealing with.

DianaB · 01-10-2008, 12:39 PM

I figured it out!!!! But I'm not telling so Tink can keep you guessing!!! I will say that it was one area that I hadnt even thought of but should have!!!! I don't know exactly what Tink will be doing with the business but I know what she'll be involved with.

Tink · 01-10-2008, 12:48 PM

Well done Diana!
I figured some of you smarties would get it.
So since you know... As I said I plan to get a smaller version of something I already have...VERY much like what I already have but about 1/3 the size. So I can make smaller versions of it myself.

Mine now is much loved and will be kept for senitmental value, but I think taking this new path will be a step in the right direction. You think so?

DianaB · 01-10-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tink

Well done Diana!
I figured some of you smarties would get it.
So since you know... As I said I plan to get a smaller version of something I already have...VERY much like what I already have but about 1/3 the size. So I can make smaller versions of it myself.

Mine now is much loved and will be kept for senitmental value, but I think taking this new path will be a step in the right direction. You think so?

Yes, I think that it will be just perfect for you!!!! You'll both be able to benefit from it!!!! That's great!!!!!

Tink · 01-13-2008, 02:31 PM

Sorry to leave you hanging all... but I wanted to be more sure that this was going to happen before I got all crazy and started making announcements.

The fire I was talking about was at a kennel. The story is here for any interested.
http://www.kenmarend.com/kenmarenews...ture108-45.htm
Absolutely tragic... so many dogs lost and the insurance company refused to pay since they're not "livestock" animals. And yes, I have done my homework... these are not "puppymillers" in spite of the lage kennel they had. If they were I'd be running... not just walking away.

So anyway, it now looks like I'm going to get my wish.

I'm going to be getting a "moyen" poodle to use as a stud. Moyens, for those who aren't familiar with the term, are a much smaller version of a standard. They are just barely large enough to be considered a standard poodle. He is registered as a standard, but will mature to 16-18" tall where my Moses is 24". He's expected to be under 30 lbs where Moses is 64.

Moses is a really good dog and the pups have been great... but because he's so big and his daddy is even bigger, the pups are very large and not everyone wants such huge dogs! Some of my pups will likely mature at close to 80 lbs and that's a lot of dog! I plan to neuter Moses and will of course keep him as my buddy.

So I am planning to have one more litter out of Canada and Moses while I wait for the new little guy to grow up and then keep a female out of them to use with the new boy. I also have breeding rights to one of the females from this last litter and will keep Canada as well. SO in time I will will have f1b pups which will be smaller and sell for at least 50% more than my large f1s.

My ideal is to have about 4 litters per year, so I am hoping to build up to that over time. This new little guy will be a great step in that direction.

I will be helping this couple to market their pups. My name won't appear anywhere on their business, but my experience in marketing and internet research will hopefully help them to reach more buyers, sell their pups easier, and make better use of the assets they now have without spending an arm and a leg to do it.

IF all goes as planned, it looks like my dh and ds will be taking a trip out to ND to pick up this new little stud muffin for me. The logistics of it all have been the biggest stumbling block. My health won't allow me to drive 12 hrs out and right back... and to have to get a hotel room just ads to the expense while leaving the dogs I already have unattended here at home. With those 2 sharing the drive, it's do-able in a weekend. (Did I also mention I get severe motion sickness from riding in a car? so would be a BAD one to take with as I'd need a barf bag as a passenger)

So anyway, I'm planning to expand my business and get into it on a deeper level with a higher generation and smaller size of labradoodles. Wooooohoooooooo!

Janet · 01-13-2008, 05:18 PM

I'm glad you finally told...I would NEVER have figured it out. Congratulations! I can't wait to see what the little one looks like.

Way to go Diana!! You're a smart one you are!

DianaB · 01-13-2008, 08:38 PM

I found the newspaper article on the fire but it wasn't without a lot of searching. Tink, I hope that all goes well for you in this. So if I understand correctly, you're going to change your breeding program with a smaller male and you're going to help this kennel to market their dogs. I think that it will be perfect for you and your expertise!!!

judy · 01-14-2008, 04:23 PM

Tink - this is wonderful news! You are really expanding as a breeder. Is this a new breed you're starting, or are there other moyen/labs?

You're a wonderful person Tink to help this couple. I know you're getting something in return, but, knowing you, you'll put your heart into helping them too.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going tgo read the article. It sounds too sad, so are they staying in business, breeding, rehoming, what?

I'm really happy for you - you get to use a lot of your talents - breeding, website
stuff, helping this kennel out.

We need pictures!!

01-10-2008, 07:47 AM	#31
judy Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, NY Posts: 8,097	I just googled industrial fire, ND, 10/06. There was a huge fire at the Apex Chemical plant, which may have caused damage to the downtown area. How's that so far Tink? __________________ *Judy*

01-10-2008, 08:32 AM	#32
Janet Moderator Donating 4WT 18K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 21,624	I went back and checked out the clues Tink, plus what Judy found and I haven't any idea. You're gonna have to tell us before we go crazy. __________________ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. ECCLESIASTES 3:1

01-10-2008, 08:44 AM	#33
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	wow... that would have been a mess, but not the one I'm referring to. This fire took place on Halloween 2006. Donnybrook Fire Department and Kenmare Fire Departments responded. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

01-10-2008, 12:08 PM	#34
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Ok the clue were... it's a 24/7 type of business that you can't leave for a weekend and get away from. Something valuable financially and emotionally was lost in the fire that insurance wouldn't cover. I took them 10 yrs to develop something to the point they wanted... and will take time to do it again... There is a real difference in what size of "product" you're dealing with. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

01-10-2008, 12:39 PM	#35
DianaB Moderator Donating 4WT 13K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 16,069	I figured it out!!!! But I'm not telling so Tink can keep you guessing!!! I will say that it was one area that I hadnt even thought of but should have!!!! I don't know exactly what Tink will be doing with the business but I know what she'll be involved with. __________________ ´¨) ¸.•´¸.•´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Diana Baker ✞ You and I are friends....... Always remember that if you fall I will pick you up...... After I stop laughing!!!

01-10-2008, 12:48 PM	#36
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Well done Diana! I figured some of you smarties would get it. So since you know... As I said I plan to get a smaller version of something I already have...VERY much like what I already have but about 1/3 the size. So I can make smaller versions of it myself. Mine now is much loved and will be kept for senitmental value, but I think taking this new path will be a step in the right direction. You think so? __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

01-13-2008, 02:31 PM	#38
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Alright! Sorry to leave you hanging all... but I wanted to be more sure that this was going to happen before I got all crazy and started making announcements. The fire I was talking about was at a kennel. The story is here for any interested. http://www.kenmarend.com/kenmarenews...ture108-45.htm Absolutely tragic... so many dogs lost and the insurance company refused to pay since they're not "livestock" animals. And yes, I have done my homework... these are not "puppymillers" in spite of the lage kennel they had. If they were I'd be running... not just walking away. So anyway, it now looks like I'm going to get my wish. I'm going to be getting a "moyen" poodle to use as a stud. Moyens, for those who aren't familiar with the term, are a much smaller version of a standard. They are just barely large enough to be considered a standard poodle. He is registered as a standard, but will mature to 16-18" tall where my Moses is 24". He's expected to be under 30 lbs where Moses is 64. Moses is a really good dog and the pups have been great... but because he's so big and his daddy is even bigger, the pups are very large and not everyone wants such huge dogs! Some of my pups will likely mature at close to 80 lbs and that's a lot of dog! I plan to neuter Moses and will of course keep him as my buddy. So I am planning to have one more litter out of Canada and Moses while I wait for the new little guy to grow up and then keep a female out of them to use with the new boy. I also have breeding rights to one of the females from this last litter and will keep Canada as well. SO in time I will will have f1b pups which will be smaller and sell for at least 50% more than my large f1s. My ideal is to have about 4 litters per year, so I am hoping to build up to that over time. This new little guy will be a great step in that direction. I will be helping this couple to market their pups. My name won't appear anywhere on their business, but my experience in marketing and internet research will hopefully help them to reach more buyers, sell their pups easier, and make better use of the assets they now have without spending an arm and a leg to do it. IF all goes as planned, it looks like my dh and ds will be taking a trip out to ND to pick up this new little stud muffin for me. The logistics of it all have been the biggest stumbling block. My health won't allow me to drive 12 hrs out and right back... and to have to get a hotel room just ads to the expense while leaving the dogs I already have unattended here at home. With those 2 sharing the drive, it's do-able in a weekend. (Did I also mention I get severe motion sickness from riding in a car? so would be a BAD one to take with as I'd need a barf bag as a passenger) So anyway, I'm planning to expand my business and get into it on a deeper level with a higher generation and smaller size of labradoodles. Wooooohoooooooo! __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

01-13-2008, 05:18 PM	#39
Janet Moderator Donating 4WT 18K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 21,624	I'm glad you finally told...I would NEVER have figured it out. Congratulations! I can't wait to see what the little one looks like. Way to go Diana!! You're a smart one you are! __________________ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. ECCLESIASTES 3:1

01-13-2008, 08:38 PM	#40
DianaB Moderator Donating 4WT 13K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 16,069	I found the newspaper article on the fire but it wasn't without a lot of searching. Tink, I hope that all goes well for you in this. So if I understand correctly, you're going to change your breeding program with a smaller male and you're going to help this kennel to market their dogs. I think that it will be perfect for you and your expertise!!! __________________ ´¨) ¸.•´¸.•´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Diana Baker ✞ You and I are friends....... Always remember that if you fall I will pick you up...... After I stop laughing!!!

01-14-2008, 04:23 PM	#41
judy Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, NY Posts: 8,097	Tink - this is wonderful news! You are really expanding as a breeder. Is this a new breed you're starting, or are there other moyen/labs? You're a wonderful person Tink to help this couple. I know you're getting something in return, but, knowing you, you'll put your heart into helping them too. I'm sorry, but I'm not going tgo read the article. It sounds too sad, so are they staying in business, breeding, rehoming, what? I'm really happy for you - you get to use a lot of your talents - breeding, website stuff, helping this kennel out. We need pictures!! __________________ *Judy*

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