Suzi! I've changed my mind re: Labradors

[RLC12345678]

Ok, so Suzi (magnolia) graciously offered to help me find 2 labrador retrievers when we are ready to add on to our furfamily. At first I thought I wanted a white labrador and a dark brown, liver, colored labrador. Then someone told me about SILVER labradors! Suzi, have you heard of these?? Well, I looked them up on the Internet and they are Absolutely GoRgEoUs!!!!!!!!! I think I want one of these now!!!!!!!! I think I've decided on WHITE and SILVER!!!!!

Here is the link to the SILVER labradors that I think are just stunning:
http://www.silverlabs.com/index.htm

Here's a link to some beautiful WHITE labradors:
http://www.mypeoplepc.com/members/sh...ers/shelbylab/


So, what do ya think?!

[Mandy]

How neat is that! I learn something new everyday on here Ive never ever heard of or seen a silver lab!!
We have a chocolate lab, she's my baby... honestly she's the best dog i could ever have wished to have, my yorkies rule her LOL

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by Mandy

How neat is that! I learn something new everyday on here Ive never ever heard of or seen a silver lab!!
We have a chocolate lab, she's my baby... honestly she's the best dog i could ever have wished to have, my yorkies rule her LOL

If I am correct, silver labradors came from chocolate ones. I LOVE labs, but so many people have them that I want a lab that is different, you know?? Silver ones are DEFINTALY different. Our friend was telling us about them and I looked them up on the Internet and they are GORGEOUS! I can't wait to get one!

[Janet]

Oh my they are beautiful aren't they??? We've had black and of course our Golden, but hubby's brother has two white. They are just puppies now and so cute!

[magnolia]

I've never seen/heard of the silver labs before. I would open the link but my stupid computer at home is s.............o.....................s............. ......l......................o.................... ....................w!!! So I'll open the links at work in the morning to look at them. Are they on the "rare" side? By that I mean, is it a "guarantee" to get silver or "luck of the litter"? If it's on the rare side, not sure if any of the guys I know here in town has a female that will throw a silver....but I can ask If they don't have a female that has ever had one, they might know someone who does. Like I said before, when you're ready, I'll do all I can to help you find that special, unique baby You're a lot like me - wanting what no one else has, being different!!

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by magnolia

I've never seen/heard of the silver labs before. I would open the link but my stupid computer at home is s.............o.....................s............. ......l......................o.................... ....................w!!! So I'll open the links at work in the morning to look at them. Are they on the "rare" side? By that I mean, is it a "guarantee" to get silver or "luck of the litter"? If it's on the rare side, not sure if any of the guys I know here in town has a female that will throw a silver....but I can ask If they don't have a female that has ever had one, they might know someone who does. Like I said before, when you're ready, I'll do all I can to help you find that special, unique baby You're a lot like me - wanting what no one else has, being different!!

It seems that the people who breed silver labs ONLY breed silver ones. The silver labs are born silver so they know for sure that it will be silver/stay silver/guarantee that it'll be silver. I posted a thread on labradortalk about the silver labradors and the 2 people who posted a reply seem to think that a silver lab is a cross between a lab and a weimeraner (maybe not directly, but at least somewhere in the lineage there is a weimeraner), and thus not a true labrador, even though they can be registered with the AKC and the sites that sell the silvers guarantee that they are 100% lab. So, who knows! All I know is that they are GoRgEoUs and I would love to have one! But, I guess the people on labradortalk feel the way about the silver labradors as we yorkie lovers feel about the Chocolate yorkies or red legged yorkies....some people LOVE them, but they are not bred for the betterment of the breed, you know? Lots of controversery about them in the labrador community. When the time comes for me to get a labrador, I will talk to the breeders I found on the Internet who breed them and see what they have to say and then decide for myself whether I want one or not. But definately look at that website! I think they are GORGEOUS!! That website is a breeder in Texas. Tell me what you think after you look at it.

[magnolia]

Originally Posted by RLC12345678

It seems that the people who breed silver labs ONLY breed silver ones. The silver labs are born silver so they know for sure that it will be silver/stay silver/guarantee that it'll be silver. I posted a thread on labradortalk about the silver labradors and the 2 people who posted a reply seem to think that a silver lab is a cross between a lab and a weimeraner (maybe not directly, but at least somewhere in the lineage there is a weimeraner), and thus not a true labrador, even though they can be registered with the AKC and the sites that sell the silvers guarantee that they are 100% lab. So, who knows! All I know is that they are GoRgEoUs and I would love to have one! But, I guess the people on labradortalk feel the way about the silver labradors as we yorkie lovers feel about the Chocolate yorkies or red legged yorkies....some people LOVE them, but they are not bred for the betterment of the breed, you know? Lots of controversery about them in the labrador community. When the time comes for me to get a labrador, I will talk to the breeders I found on the Internet who breed them and see what they have to say and then decide for myself whether I want one or not. But definately look at that website! I think they are GORGEOUS!! That website is a breeder in Texas. Tell me what you think after you look at it.

I defintely will look tomorrow And I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have some Weimeraner in them somewhere back in time - those dogs are gorgeous too! Texas, huh? Well, you know you have to pretty much drive through my neck of the woods headed that way (unless they are in south TX) so you will have to stop on your way out and we'll have lunch and you'll have to stop on your way back so I can see the new baby - provided that's the direction you head in your lab search

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by magnolia

I defintely will look tomorrow And I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have some Weimeraner in them somewhere back in time - those dogs are gorgeous too! Texas, huh? Well, you know you have to pretty much drive through my neck of the woods headed that way (unless they are in south TX) so you will have to stop on your way out and we'll have lunch and you'll have to stop on your way back so I can see the new baby - provided that's the direction you head in your lab search

That would be SOOOO Much fun! We would HAVE to get together so you could see the pretty little silver labrador! And of course you would have to meet Hootie & Hobbs. hehehehe As I'm talking about the silver labs, I'm getting the evil eye from hubby. He's so funny. They cost $1000 and hubby says we aren't paying that much for a lab. I know that is a lot for a labrador, but I don't see why it is ok to pay that much for a yorkie, but not okay to pay that much for a labrador! Plus, you are going to have to pay a little more to get something different. I LOVE LOVE LOVE labs, but I am just on a mission to get one that is different. You know how I feel.

hi.... WOW, I looked at this site, they are beautiful! I have a Yellow, she is the MOST incredible dog in the world....
If it were me, I would adopt a baby lab of a "regular" color.. there are so many babies out there because no one wants to adopt a "Big" dog.....
Love my Laci...

[Mandy]

Rebecca, i had a look on a dutch lab forum to see if they know anything about silver labs, i read that they are unheard of in this country, and are affraid that someone will see "bucks" in this color and start breeding a new trend.
They had the same link you posted here and i found another one, maybe there's more info for you

http://www.labbies.com/silver.htm

[Carolyn]

The silver labs are gorgeous!!

[magnolia]

Okay, I had time to go in and look at both the silver and the white labs and I must say, they are GORGEOUS! I don't think you'll go wrong with either selection but I'm partial to the silver - they are different and not a color you would see every day so if you're looking for something not many other people will have (especially where you live), then I say go for the silver As for the cost, if I read correctly on their website, they personally train the dogs in fielding, obedience, etc so if that is the case, you will pay more for what some call a "guaranteed" dog - guaranteed to retrieve, track, obey, etc. Sam, when he's ready to get another lab, has already checked into getting a "guaranteed" lab and the price will be anywhere from $1500 and up. So, if your lab will be used by your hubby for retrieving purposes (does he duck hunt? dove hunt? quail?), then the money is worth it. If, however, you are only going to purchase one for pet only, you may can talk to them on getting a lower price since they won't have to "train" the puppy for you. Also, if the dog will be used for hunting, tell your husband this - if you purchase a lab for, say $600, you still have to pay someone else to train him/her for you and that cost can run anywhere from $200-$300 per month....I know because we sent our lab to Arkansas to be trained when he was 9 months old (we waited too late, they need to start their training between 4-6 months, if not sooner) and the cost was $200 (or $250) per month at that time and that was back in 1998!! If he had been "trainable", it would have cost us about another $600 or more to have him trained so you can see, adding the cost of the dog plus training, you're looking at $1500 or more investment so why not go ahead and pay it to get one that will be guaranteed - if that's what you want

Sorry to get so lengthy on the post - just trying to show a cost breakdown for you and your husband. And, depending on the area, guaranteed labs can run as high as $2500 or more. You have some time before you are ready to make the decision and purchase and you are off to a good start with your research. If there's anything I can do to help, you know I will

And if you head to Texas for that special lab, we will definitely get together so Gabby and Gage can meet Hootie and Hobbs and have a little play date Of course, Gabby won't want anything to do with your furbabies (just because she's ornery that way ) but Gage will have a blast!!

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by magnolia

Okay, I had time to go in and look at both the silver and the white labs and I must say, they are GORGEOUS! I don't think you'll go wrong with either selection but I'm partial to the silver - they are different and not a color you would see every day so if you're looking for something not many other people will have (especially where you live), then I say go for the silver As for the cost, if I read correctly on their website, they personally train the dogs in fielding, obedience, etc so if that is the case, you will pay more for what some call a "guaranteed" dog - guaranteed to retrieve, track, obey, etc. Sam, when he's ready to get another lab, has already checked into getting a "guaranteed" lab and the price will be anywhere from $1500 and up. So, if your lab will be used by your hubby for retrieving purposes (does he duck hunt? dove hunt? quail?), then the money is worth it. If, however, you are only going to purchase one for pet only, you may can talk to them on getting a lower price since they won't have to "train" the puppy for you. Also, if the dog will be used for hunting, tell your husband this - if you purchase a lab for, say $600, you still have to pay someone else to train him/her for you and that cost can run anywhere from $200-$300 per month....I know because we sent our lab to Arkansas to be trained when he was 9 months old (we waited too late, they need to start their training between 4-6 months, if not sooner) and the cost was $200 (or $250) per month at that time and that was back in 1998!! If he had been "trainable", it would have cost us about another $600 or more to have him trained so you can see, adding the cost of the dog plus training, you're looking at $1500 or more investment so why not go ahead and pay it to get one that will be guaranteed - if that's what you want

Sorry to get so lengthy on the post - just trying to show a cost breakdown for you and your husband. And, depending on the area, guaranteed labs can run as high as $2500 or more. You have some time before you are ready to make the decision and purchase and you are off to a good start with your research. If there's anything I can do to help, you know I will

And if you head to Texas for that special lab, we will definitely get together so Gabby and Gage can meet Hootie and Hobbs and have a little play date Of course, Gabby won't want anything to do with your furbabies (just because she's ornery that way ) but Gage will have a blast!!

Oh my gosh, Suzi, thank you so much for all this information! It is truly helpful!!!! I know that getting a "guaranteed" lab was expensive. I didn't read the website well (just looked at the pics), so I am happy to know that if we got a silver lab from them then it would be guaranteed. My husband would want it trained for hunting purposes. I'll definately keep you updated on what we decide! My hubby really wants TWO labs, so we'll probably end up getting one of each...a silver AND a white. I don't really care about the "controversy" over the silver labs. They are gorgeous and since they are guaranteed, I think they are worth the money. AND I will have something different! It will probably be at least a year before we get a lab, but I'll definately keep you updated! I would love to drive to Texas to pick it up. I love Texas and I think it would be SO much fun to stop at your place and visit!!! I'll definately keep you updated! Thanks again for all the info! You have truly been helpful! Please let me know if there is ever anything I can do to return the favor in any way!

[magnolia]

Originally Posted by RLC12345678

Oh my gosh, Suzi, thank you so much for all this information! It is truly helpful!!!! I know that getting a "guaranteed" lab was expensive. I didn't read the website well (just looked at the pics), so I am happy to know that if we got a silver lab from them then it would be guaranteed. My husband would want it trained for hunting purposes. I'll definately keep you updated on what we decide! My hubby really wants TWO labs, so we'll probably end up getting one of each...a silver AND a white. I don't really care about the "controversy" over the silver labs. They are gorgeous and since they are guaranteed, I think they are worth the money. AND I will have something different! It will probably be at least a year before we get a lab, but I'll definately keep you updated! I would love to drive to Texas to pick it up. I love Texas and I think it would be SO much fun to stop at your place and visit!!! I'll definately keep you updated! Thanks again for all the info! You have truly been helpful! Please let me know if there is ever anything I can do to return the favor in any way!

Oh, I don't mind and I certainly don't know everything there is to know about labs, what I wrote was just from our personal experience. MD (our lab - and you'll get a kick out of his name - Midnight Dee Ohh Gee - Midnight "Dog") was a beautiful chocolate lab that was given to us by very good friends for Sam's birthday - they were selling the puppies for $500 each. Sam didn't really have the time to devote to training him, and being a new lab owner, didn't realize the training needs to start a lot sooner than what we did - over 9 months old. By the time he took him to Arkansas, it really was too late so MD became our big baby, not worth anything when it came to hunting and retrieving but my gosh, such love and devotion he gave us and we gave it right back to him - he's been gone 2 years now and I miss him so much I think him and Gage would have become best buds - Gabby couldn't stand him!

As for the "guarantee" part, the breeder on the website (unless I read it wrong) says they'll train them and if it's successful, then they "guarantee" him/her to be trained in retrieving, obedience, etc. And they'll give you the commands they've trained him/her with for each action done or what you want the dog to do. I mean, if you're gonna pay that much for one, you expect it to do what you want it to do. I would suggest, if you've settled on the silver, go ahead and contact the breeder - just as if you were searching for a yorkie. Let the breeder answer any of your questions, answer any they have, and go ahead and get on a waiting list. If you won't be ready for one for another year or so, the waiting list may be that long - why get ready for one only to be disappointed because you have to wait another year. And if a pup becomes available for you and you aren't quite ready, the breeder should understand if you've kept up a conversation with them and move you down a couple spots or so on the list (I'm not a breeder so don't know if this is a possibility). So go ahead, send them an email - begin the lines of communication, ask lots of questions of them, do more research on the lab breed in general to prepare in advance - heck, depending on where they are in Texas, take a week-end trip out to see their kennels, visit with them, etc - make sure the silver is what you want. Either way, you are already off to a good start - just keep going down that road

And you don't owe me anything - I'm learning with you while sharing what little I do know of the lab breed

[magnolia]

One other thing to remember: if you look into a "guaranteed" lab, this is not a puppy you will get when he/she is 12 weeks old - you won't get him/her until they are more like 9 months old or so, so be prepared for that - unless you purchase one at 12 weeks of age then find someone else to train - then you're looking at sending your lab to "live" somewhere else for at least 3 months of training. Could you bear to part with him/her for that long, if not longer, after having him/her in your home for a couple months?

Oh, and I called hubby - MD was a year old when we sent him off - way too late for training but we learned and know what to do when we look for our next lab baby - we are getting one guaranteed instead of 10-12 weeks old then sending off to train - life happens and we may "miss" the time frame to send him/her off for training.