Just weird

[Emmsmom]

Amen!!!

[Janet]

So is this one of those heated debate topics??? lolol

You bet it is!!! I just better stay away from this one, because I wouldn't come out looking very good. Besides it does make me sad to feel the way I do about it, but the anger takes over the sadness!

Well guys, I guess I am being thrown out by all of you then!! I am one of those god awful illegal immigrants! I moved here from Romania when I was 6 and we filed for political asylum within the next month in order to appy for a green card. Well let me tell you, our status is still "pending." I am 22 years old now. My parents have worked SOO hard to get to where we are. They went to night school at the local church to learn English. They each had two jobs. They worked a lot harder than some natural born citizens have to get my family to where we are now. My parents, brother and I each have to pay over $150 a YEAR to be able to work here. They were able to get my brother and I into college. I can gurantee yall that a majority of the jobs that immigrants do have been passed over by citizens (whose ancestors immigrated here just like the current generation is trying to, but that's already been pointed out). Try living in a third world country and then complain about others trying to better their life. My 70 year old grandmother had to stand in line for milk and meat when I was younger. I had never even see a banana when I moved here. I am completely crushed by the lack of compassion shown on this board for people who are trying to give their children opportunities that their home country does not have available. I might not be the "typical mexican immigrant" but I am an immigrant and I dont have a greencard..so by definition I am illegal. But you know what? We pay our taxes and we have worked very very hard for what we have now. Sorry, but I get heated over this, too. Maybe yall should think about putting yourself in someone elses shoes. And not be so selfish with the opportunities that your (immigrant) ancestors provided.

[Marilyn]

Gutu28, don't be offended by these ladies. Your situation is somewhat different than what they are discussing here. Your family was seeking political assylum, and both your parents worked hard to get where you are. What they did was commendable.

What is happening with the Mexican immigrants is somewhat different. Some of them are coming here for the same reason as your parents, and they are hard workers and are trying to become citizens. Most of us would cut them some slack.

The majority of Mexican illegals are trying to get here to get on our welfare system. We see this first hand in South Texas. Young women are crossing the border having children and getting their WIC cards. Many of them think that's the way things work here. That we all get WIC cards when we have babies. It's an American priviledge. Our schools along the borders are full of illegal children. The men work at labor jobs that pay just enough to get by, and the women do not work, they stay home and keep having babies who are American citizens and collect welfare. Many of the men drink and get into trouble. Not all, but you are seeing it up north, the majority of the people getting into trouble have Mexican names. Most of our murders are Mexicans.

We need desperately to amend the constitution with regard to granting American citizenship by simply being born on our soil. The mother should be a citizen for the child to be a citizen.

[Emmsmom]

Originally Posted by Marilyn

Gutu28, don't be offended by these ladies. Your situation is somewhat different than what they are discussing here. Your family was seeking political assylum, and both your parents worked hard to get where you are. What they did was commendable.

What is happening with the Mexican immigrants is somewhat different. Some of them are coming here for the same reason as your parents, and they are hard workers and are trying to become citizens. Most of us would cut them some slack.

The majority of Mexican illegals are trying to get here to get on our welfare system. We see this first hand in South Texas. Young women are crossing the border having children and getting their WIC cards. Many of them think that's the way things work here. That we all get WIC cards when we have babies. It's an American priviledge. Our schools along the borders are full of illegal children. The men work at labor jobs that pay just enough to get by, and the women do not work, they stay home and keep having babies who are American citizens and collect welfare. Many of the men drink and get into trouble. Not all, but you are seeing it up north, the majority of the people getting into trouble have Mexican names. Most of our murders are Mexicans.

We need desperately to amend the constitution with regard to granting American citizenship by simply being born on our soil. The mother should be a citizen for the child to be a citizen.

You also have to realize that you are paying $150 dollars to be able to work here. Illegals DON"T. I think there is a huge difference in what we are talking about. Our little town just busted 60 ILLEGAL mexicans for cocaine!!!

As for the jobs ... well not all jobs are being passed over by Americans. Take a look at this link.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=6626823


We have a ton of construction jobs here being given to illegal mexicans because they get paid under the table tax free. I am not taling about small jobs. I am talking about building homes. There are a ton of homeless people if given the chance would work. But with so many mexicans coming over and taking the jobs CHEAP they get looked over.

I also don't agree about getting paid only cash. If they are paid by check then the comapny has to report it and then in turn the person being paid has to pay taxes. My husband has to pay taxes as well as everyone else. They too should be made to pay them. If they want welfare then it is only fair they pay their part.

I am sorry you feel we are talking about you situation but I don't see it that way. You have filed the paper work and even pay a fee to work here. People that are ILLEGAL don't even bother.

[Gina]

I just like to add that we are all children of immigrants at one time. Our ancestors came here and went through the right channels to become citizens. They took jobs that no one wanted and were paid low wages. There were no senators or congressmen giving them aid, such as food stamps or welfare or medical. They had to bust they butts to provide for their families. Yet you didn't hear them complaining about being discriminated. We spoke about this issue before, all I can add to this topic is that these people who hire the immgriants should be paying them cash , off the books. Not by check. I am not against the immigrants, but I feel they should assilimate into our society the way our ancestors have, This is the land of the free and I am so tired of every nationality claiming discrimination of some sort. We are the minority today and we have to conform to all. It is disgusting, with all the issues we have America has become the laughing stock.

[Janet]

Gutu29, I read your post early this morning before my bus route. I did not respond then, because I wanted to have time to think about what I wanted to say. When I got back, Marilyn and Gina had already responded and I could not think of one thing they hadn't mentioned. They did a great job explaining how most feel. Please do not feel offended in any way...your circumstances are so completely different.

[Willow]

I want to apologise to Gutu29. You are trying to do things the RIGHT way and in no way does my post apply to you. I am very sorry if my post offended you.

I would also like to add that I am a descendant of Quantum Parker, who was one of the last Comanche indian chiefs forced onto a reservation. MY people were here before ANY immigrants...and my ancestors were forced onto reservations. I have ancestors that were both here before the immigrants came and I have ancestors thet migrated here LEGALLY and worked hard just like you are doing to become citizens and raise their children here.

My husband and I live in a small community and the local farmers and ranchers are all hiring illegal mexicans who work for less than minimum wage. There are no American employees. That is what upsets me. My husband would work for those farmers, but because he expects at the very least to be paid minimum wage, he is not hired. Or when he DID work for the one dairy farm he was the only American and he would get into trouble for the mexicans mistakes who didn't speak any English and then would laugh at my husband when they managed to get him into hot water with the boss.

Again, I apologise for the harshness of my earlier post. Please do not take it to mean you. You are not an illegal, not when you have the paperwork filed and you are doing what the goverment asks of you to work in our country. That is the way they should ALL do it.

And I am glad you got to go to College! I am sure your parents love you a great deal and worked very hard and honestly to give you that chance, and that is the most wonderful gift that any parent could give their child!

[Ponyup]

I have no problem with people finding refuge in the united states. I do however, think that they should be required to learn the language, not be eligible for our welfare system, & not require that we change our traditions & customs to fit theres. If I moved to Mexio I would be expected to learn Spanish & adapt to their way of life. Why are we any different?