Montana's in labor!

Tink · 09-10-2007, 05:52 PM

Does anyone want to go with me to beat on this woman?

Her response via Email...

"Yes, Monty has had 2 false pregnancies before....She did this same thing after Canada had her pups once, so it may be another time for her to be doing this.....She had us fooled twice into thinking she was pregnant too and we had to take her to the vet and found out it was a false pg....So it could be again....She is a very dominant female, BUT, always seemed to push away the males when we tried to breed her, so if it was me and this is just my opinion from knowing her all these years, I would bet she is NOT pregnant....But I could be wrong...Canada on the other hand, loves the fellas so I kn ew she would be knocked up when you said her and the dog hooked...Keep me posted, but I would wait it out too...
Watch her closely as she has had a history of laying on her pups too...."

This poor dog should have been spayed and she'd have not had to endure this again! Can you imagine NOT telling a new owner something like that? I'm absolutely LIVID for Montana!

Tink · 09-10-2007, 08:51 PM

I wouldn't otherwise have separated the pair, but:

When Montana escaped she didn't seem at all concerned about being away from Canada. It was Canada who was distressed by it. I'm thinking Canada will be occupied enough by her pups right now that she won't feel the loss as deeply as she otherwise would. What I'm reading tells me that For Montana to be around a breeding female just encourages her hormones to keep doing this to her and that she's likely to continue to lactate and try to go into labor until the pups are weaned. That's a long time to be like this!

If I can find her a place where she'd be number 1 dog with no breeding going on but someone to play with and love on her, she'd get back to normal and be a much happier, healthier animal. One of the articles I read about false pregnancies in dogs compared this to sending someone to the nursery to recover from a miscarriage. How heartbreaking is that? That's the point at which my tears started.

I emailed all my local dog loving friends to put out the word that we need help ASAP... so am hoping someone will come through for us soon. She's so pretty and loving that I can't believe no one would want her. I plan to offer her for the price of her spay and refund the money to pay for it once they have it done. Supposedly spaying her now would not be a good thing until her hormones settle down.

I don't know what else to do.

judy · 09-11-2007, 05:38 AM

Tink,

I'm so sorry! That poor dog. Whatever you end up doing, I know it will be the right thing. You have such a wise, good heart.

Prayers for the sweetie, the puppies, the new Mama, and for you, who has to go through all of this,

Judy

Mandy · 09-11-2007, 06:29 AM

I'm speechless, honest! Poor dog, and poor you. I know you will do the right thing, please give her a big hug from me!

Janet · 09-11-2007, 07:32 AM

I am so sad for Montana! Tink, can you let her nurse some of Canada's puppies? Wouldn't that help Canada at the same time? The puppies would be getting enough nourishment and satifying Montana at the same time. I can't remember, but has Montana EVER been pregnant? I'm just wondering that if after the puppies are weaned...if you could keep the females separated and see if Montana could become pregnant. You'd have to make sure they tie of course and how many times, but not let Canada get pregnant her next heat. Sounds like Montana would make a wonderful mama, if she didn't feel she was competing (?) with Canada....does any of this make sense?

Tink · 09-11-2007, 08:04 AM

Thanks Ladies I can always count on you.

I'm hoping tonight when people get home from work and start checking email that I'll get someone interested in Montana. Some of the seasoned breeders at the Labradoodle site I frequent advised me to get her a stuffed animal... preferrably one that makes a noise when moved, to help her with the bonding and need to cuddle issues. They're telling me this isn't uncommon and isn't as hard for a dog as it would be for humans. I hope they're right but would like to know which dog they asked and if she was honest in her statement.

It just breaks my heart to watch this being played out.

AngieDoogles · 09-11-2007, 10:42 AM

Wow Tink! I can't believe they didn't tell you her history, knowing you wanted to breed her and Canada!! How awful! I hope you are able to find a wonderful, loving home for her and that she feels better soon. *Hugs to you and Montana*

09-10-2007, 05:52 PM	#1
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Does anyone want to go with me to beat on this woman? Her response via Email... "Yes, Monty has had 2 false pregnancies before....She did this same thing after Canada had her pups once, so it may be another time for her to be doing this.....She had us fooled twice into thinking she was pregnant too and we had to take her to the vet and found out it was a false pg....So it could be again....She is a very dominant female, BUT, always seemed to push away the males when we tried to breed her, so if it was me and this is just my opinion from knowing her all these years, I would bet she is NOT pregnant....But I could be wrong...Canada on the other hand, loves the fellas so I kn ew she would be knocked up when you said her and the dog hooked...Keep me posted, but I would wait it out too... Watch her closely as she has had a history of laying on her pups too...." This poor dog should have been spayed and she'd have not had to endure this again! Can you imagine NOT telling a new owner something like that? I'm absolutely LIVID for Montana! __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

09-10-2007, 08:51 PM	#2
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	I wouldn't otherwise have separated the pair, but: When Montana escaped she didn't seem at all concerned about being away from Canada. It was Canada who was distressed by it. I'm thinking Canada will be occupied enough by her pups right now that she won't feel the loss as deeply as she otherwise would. What I'm reading tells me that For Montana to be around a breeding female just encourages her hormones to keep doing this to her and that she's likely to continue to lactate and try to go into labor until the pups are weaned. That's a long time to be like this! If I can find her a place where she'd be number 1 dog with no breeding going on but someone to play with and love on her, she'd get back to normal and be a much happier, healthier animal. One of the articles I read about false pregnancies in dogs compared this to sending someone to the nursery to recover from a miscarriage. How heartbreaking is that? That's the point at which my tears started. I emailed all my local dog loving friends to put out the word that we need help ASAP... so am hoping someone will come through for us soon. She's so pretty and loving that I can't believe no one would want her. I plan to offer her for the price of her spay and refund the money to pay for it once they have it done. Supposedly spaying her now would not be a good thing until her hormones settle down. I don't know what else to do. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

09-11-2007, 05:38 AM	#3
judy Donating 4WT Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver, NY Posts: 8,097	Tink, I'm so sorry! That poor dog. Whatever you end up doing, I know it will be the right thing. You have such a wise, good heart. Prayers for the sweetie, the puppies, the new Mama, and for you, who has to go through all of this, Judy __________________ *Judy*

09-11-2007, 06:29 AM	#4
Mandy Donating 4WT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Who cares! Posts: 4,587	I'm speechless, honest! Poor dog, and poor you. I know you will do the right thing, please give her a big hug from me! __________________ Many people will walk in and out your life, but only true friends leave footprints!

09-11-2007, 07:32 AM	#5
Janet Moderator Donating 4WT 18K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 21,625	I am so sad for Montana! Tink, can you let her nurse some of Canada's puppies? Wouldn't that help Canada at the same time? The puppies would be getting enough nourishment and satifying Montana at the same time. I can't remember, but has Montana EVER been pregnant? I'm just wondering that if after the puppies are weaned...if you could keep the females separated and see if Montana could become pregnant. You'd have to make sure they tie of course and how many times, but not let Canada get pregnant her next heat. Sounds like Montana would make a wonderful mama, if she didn't feel she was competing (?) with Canada....does any of this make sense? __________________ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven. ECCLESIASTES 3:1

09-11-2007, 08:04 AM	#6
Tink Donating 4WT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rural Wisconsin Posts: 3,707	Thanks Ladies I can always count on you. I'm hoping tonight when people get home from work and start checking email that I'll get someone interested in Montana. Some of the seasoned breeders at the Labradoodle site I frequent advised me to get her a stuffed animal... preferrably one that makes a noise when moved, to help her with the bonding and need to cuddle issues. They're telling me this isn't uncommon and isn't as hard for a dog as it would be for humans. I hope they're right but would like to know which dog they asked and if she was honest in her statement. It just breaks my heart to watch this being played out. __________________ 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair'

09-11-2007, 10:42 AM	#7
AngieDoogles Donating 4WT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,509	Wow Tink! I can't believe they didn't tell you her history, knowing you wanted to breed her and Canada!! How awful! I hope you are able to find a wonderful, loving home for her and that she feels better soon. Hugs to you and Montana __________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~MT

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