17 yr old daughter, need I say more?

[Mandy]

Cathy, it's good to see you here, glad you made it!!


Kids that age dont seem to realise how important their grades are, you not alone on this, my son is the same "happy go lucky" school is, well just that. He has to sit down, and do school work for 1 1/2 hour each night for me now, hes grades dropped this first semester, so now i too am putting my foot down.

You are a good mom, she will appreciate you later on. This is not an easy age.

[katepoet]

Hi Cathy
I always have the odd-woman-out opinion on teens here on 4WT. So, here it goes again! lol

Teens who are capable and bright and struggling often have an allergy to the school and or home environment or to the foods they are eating. Standard allergy testing is full of false negatives but there is a better form of testing that can find out what's going on. It's called P/N or provocation/neutralization and has been around since the 1950's. It takes longer so it hasn't been as popular as standard testing but it is much better.

In addition, she may have nutritional deficiencies. Try a Buffered Vitamin C for stress for both of you - I like one of Nutricology's supplement that is derived from beets or cassava - low allergen foods. Make sure she is taking iron and folic acid with the C as an iron shortage due to menstruation can cause fatigue. Iron also absorbs better with C.

Sit down with her and explain that her body's hormones and immune system may be making her life harder - this kind of reaction I am talking about makes emotions feel stronger and at the same time, they seem rational. Give her the benefit of the doubt. I am sure she wants to be a good daughter and student, she is just over her head.

If any of this seems interesting to you, as a different approach to the problem, I would be glad to tell you more, pass on names of books and MDs.

[rivermom]

I have a 17 year old daughter. In a teens eyes - it can so often be "just about them". Their world is small and it's nearly impossible for them to see the larger picture. Emotions don't last, their future does.

Bounderies and guidelines as you are drawing out are healthy. She will thank you someday for you doing this.

Deep breath!!! That's what I have to remind myself to do.

you have to do what you think is best for her, most teens hate parents for making them do what they need to do. but also remember alot if it is up to them also so dont beat your self up if she doesnt do the right thing. they really dont know how hard its going to be on them if they dont do the work now, my youngest is 19 and didnt graduate (long story involving a brain inj. and giving up on relearning everything) i know he could have done the work if he really tried hard but he gave up and now had a really hard time finding a job without an education all the grounding and everything else we did didnt matter to him so now he will go to the school of hard knocks.

[DianaB]

Teen age years!!!!! We should just lock them in a closet starting about age 14 and let them out when they're 20!!!!! I've got 3 that are well past teen years and one that's in the midst (15).

One of the most important things that I can say about teens is to keep the communication open. Convey ALL of your concerns about your daughter's grades to her. Sometimes, as parents, we push and push, but ultimately the choice is theirs and I think that they rebel at all of the pushing. Let her know how important her decisions are to her future and then put it back in her lap as to what she's going to do about it. Let HER take responsibility for her own decisions. I know that it's easier said then done too! Good luck!

[rivermom]

Originally Posted by DianaB

Teen age years!!!!! We should just lock them in a closet starting about age 14 and let them out when they're 20!!!!! I've got 3 that are well past teen years and one that's in the midst (15).

One of the most important things that I can say about teens is to keep the communication open. Convey ALL of your concerns about your daughter's grades to her. Sometimes, as parents, we push and push, but ultimately the choice is theirs and I think that they rebel at all of the pushing. Let her know how important her decisions are to her future and then put it back in her lap as to what she's going to do about it. Let HER take responsibility for her own decisions. I know that it's easier said then done too! Good luck!

Can this be framed?!!?? Beautifully said Diana!

[judy]

It sounds like you're doing everything right. I was a high school teacher for years.
I retired just about a year ago, and believe it or not, I loved my kids. Teens are fun when they're not yours.

I promise you will live through this, and so will she. How's that nervous breakdown working for her? Does she hate you more than anything else in the universe, are you the absolute dumbest person she will ever meet, do you not understand the first thing about her and her priorities, and, while you're at it, are you to blame for every single thing that has gone wrong in her entire life? If so, then you are as good mother.

I found that with my own daughter and with my students, agreeing with them on these points (where appropriate - you do want to have serious discussions sometimes) worked for me. I also took the blame for the war we're having now, poverty, all illness, and any forest fires and/or droughts that occurred. Yes, it's all my fault, I'm a terrible, horrible person - now do what I told you anyway, or you're still grounded. And have that nervous breakdown quietly please. I want to watch my TV show.

By the way, my students really, really loved their mothers when we would talk
about it. Thy also took a lot more responsibility for themselves than they let their parents know. It's their job to drive their parents crazy.